Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Left the long argument to you didnt want to tread on your toes. You're supposed to help though, not supply them with ammo I agree about the weather forecast, it certainly isn't looking very good. Met office showing 7am shower then fine all day, which is better than earlier so can't see any help from the weather atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) .so we should be punished just because we happened to end up with Sheffield who normaly ride on a Thursday which happens to be the one night half our team is missing..is that really how you want 6 months hard work to be played out?..a free passage through?..hardly fair is it? and i guarantee should it have been the other way round Ged would agree to another date without question because he is a speedway man and its the right thing to do..sound like you lot are "win at all costs" unfortunately similar to a lot of other selfish people these days...I can honestly say that if it was the other way round I wouldn't want Sheffield down here with half a team as it makes even more a mockery of this tinpot sport that is British speedway. Cant agree with that, Peterborough were happy to give us a rearranged date in July at 10 days notice when Tigers had 3 riders out injured and 10 PL teams riding that night severely limiting our options on guests. Tigers consequently having to put a weak team out with Josh Bates also riding while ill, didn't see Panthers complaining too much about it that night and Tigers just got on with it. Edited September 14, 2015 by Tigerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 tbf youve reached the play offs with mostly other teams riders this season, why change now? With most of that being out of our hands, but when it came to the crunch and we'd got a full team then you'd have thought that the fans would want to see those riders and Sheffield would want to say that they beat Peterborough's team? I thought we'd left the Poole mentality behind but clearly it lives in the PL as well. Cant agree with that, Peterborough were happy to give us a rearranged date in July at 10 days notice when Tigers had 3 riders out injured and 10 PL teams riding that night severely limiting our options on guests. Tigers consequently having to put a weak team out with Josh Bates also riding while ill, didn't see Panthers complaining too much about it that night and Tigers just got on with it. Why didn't Sheffield decline the fixture? (I'm assuming that they could?) If that really was the situation then I'd have told us to try again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I can see this being the start of a farcical end to the season. Sheffield v Peterborough is the only PL Play off fixture on the BSPA list at the moment. When is the return leg scheduled? When will the teams be known for the following set of fixtures? Are we then to expect further delays due to rider unavailability and poor weather? It is not rocket science for the BSPA to set dates for the Play offs. The EL have managed it. The current situation is damaging the sport's credibility yet again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Can understand Sheffield wanting this fixture on. If they agreed to the 24th and it was rained off (high probability this time of year) that would be 5 weeks without a home meeting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's been done tactically not for any other reason. I would love it if the Panthers select went their an rolled them over though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Just to back up SCB's point: From what I recall, Sheffield only removed the 10th as a reserve date on their website around last Monday/Tuesday. I was checking, because Bellego was guesting for Scunny last week (ended up being Compton as well, after Theo pulled out on Wednesday), and part of the publicity was trying to lure the Sheffield fans across, which would be much easier if they didn't have a meeting themselves last week. The 17th was always there as a reserve date for Sheffield. Sheffield have had two blank Thursdays on the trot; is it really fair to expect them to have a third one? The date has been there since the start of the season. All the best Rob Sheffield had EVERY Thursday listed on their fixture list - either with a meeting or as "reserved". There aren't enough fixtures in the season for them to have a home meeting on EVERY Thursday. So your point about going a couple of weeks with no meeting doesn't hold water. When you say "it's not fair" what do you mean exactly? It's not uncommon for speedway fans to have fragmented fixtures. The weather alone sees to that! Or are you suggesting that the crowd will be down because some Sheff fans will have lost interest in the play-offs by the 24th? What is unfair is the way Sheff have unilaterally picked the 17th knowing full well that Panthers would have key riders unavailable on that date. It's very naive to think that they didn't have that in their minds. Cant agree with that, Peterborough were happy to give us a rearranged date in July at 10 days notice when Tigers had 3 riders out injured and 10 PL teams riding that night severely limiting our options on guests. Tigers consequently having to put a weak team out with Josh Bates also riding while ill, didn't see Panthers complaining too much about it that night and Tigers just got on with it. Sheff didn't have to agree to that rearranged date - but they did agree. We're talking here about a date that Panthers have NOT agreed to. We probably didn't put a challenge meeting on as we fully expected to be riding our first playoff meeting this Thursday. You studiously avoid a key point: why didn't Sheff have the courtesy to ask Panthers first? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sheffield had EVERY Thursday listed on their fixture list - either with a meeting or as "reserved". There aren't enough fixtures in the season for them to have a home meeting on EVERY Thursday. So your point about going a couple of weeks with no meeting doesn't hold water. When you say "it's not fair" what do you mean exactly? It's not uncommon for speedway fans to have fragmented fixtures. The weather alone sees to that! Or are you suggesting that the crowd will be down because some Sheff fans will have lost interest in the play-offs by the 24th? What is unfair is the way Sheff have unilaterally picked the 17th knowing full well that Panthers would have key riders unavailable on that date. It's very naive to think that they didn't have that in their minds. Sheff didn't have to agree to that rearranged date - but they did agree. We're talking here about a date that Panthers have NOT agreed to. panthers have to follow the rulings of the bspa whether we like it or not , no doubt about its not in the best interests of the sport (esp panthers) but when have the bspa been worried about the best interests of the sport , can't see how panthers can have facilities for grondal and thomsen when they don't ride till Saturday unless the Danish authorities have a agreement with the bspa regarding fim events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) panthers have to follow the rulings of the bspa whether we like it or not , no doubt about its not in the best interests of the sport (esp panthers) but when have the bspa been worried about the best interests of the sport , can't see how panthers can have facilities for grondal and thomsen when they don't ride till Saturday unless the Danish authorities have a agreement with the bspa regarding fim events All sorted now. The gloves are off and Rathbone lets rip - this is a hyperlink We've made the effort to make the meeting credible: "However, Peterborough have received a huge boost with World Under 21 finalists Thomsen and Grondal, and Barker, who is due to compete in the prestigious Golden Helmet meeting, all vowing to represent their club in the battle for honours. Rathbone added: “The guys have all agreed to change their plans ahead of major weekend meetings to be at Sheffield. We have pulled out all the stops at great expense to the club to ensure we have the strongest possible team" And the funniest part is that in a sport swamped with rules, many unwritten which appear out of the ether as necessary, the BSPA MC sympathise but say that there is no rule in place for this situation: when has that ever bothered them Edited September 15, 2015 by Crump99 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Credit to Ged and the three riders for getting this sorted. Now let's get to Sheffield and roll them over. Any idea who will be at number 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Credit to Ged and the three riders for getting this sorted. Now let's get to Sheffield and roll them over. Any idea who will be at number 1 Ronnie replacement would be my guess. Just hope that those three are on decent equipment as you'd imagine that logistically their best will be elsewhere or on route? Edited September 15, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 And the funniest part is that in a sport swamped with rules, many unwritten which appear out of the ether as necessary, the BSPA MC sympathise but say that there is no rule in place for this situation: when has that ever bothered them yeah.... funny how they didn't make one up, like they usually do. Credit to Ged and the three riders for getting this sorted. Now let's get to Sheffield and roll them over. Any idea who will be at number 1 I know it has to be somebody from a team not involved in the play-offs... but who would fit? Hope it's not R/R, but then again, it will be all the sweeter if we get a good result without a guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencebel Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Come on Panthers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 So - they weren't riding abroad on the Thursday after all. Just wanted another day in bed. And which golden helmet is Barker due to ride in? Not the same one as smiling Sam on Sunday? Sam is managing to ride at Armadale on Friday as well so surely there should be no problem for Barker to be at Sheffield on Thursday? It's amazing what can be done when the issues are forced. And to answer a previous post, why should Sheffield have known the panthers 3 would be missing on the 17th when there are no fixture clashes that day? Bluff called - Peterborough found out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 yeah.... funny how they didn't make one up, like they usually do. I know it has to be somebody from a team not involved in the play-offs... but who would fit? Hope it's not R/R, but then again, it will be all the sweeter if we get a good result without a guest. Tungate, porsing, Covatti Lambert (cough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 So - they weren't riding abroad on the Thursday after all. Just wanted another day in bed. And which golden helmet is Barker due to ride in? Not the same one as smiling Sam on Sunday? Sam is managing to ride at Armadale on Friday as well so surely there should be no problem for Barker to be at Sheffield on Thursday? It's amazing what can be done when the issues are forced. And to answer a previous post, why should Sheffield have known the panthers 3 would be missing on the 17th when there are no fixture clashes that day? Bluff called - Peterborough found out. Nobody been found out. The sport looks like it couldn't run a bath as per usual. Sheffield could have explained it in those terms and perhaps got the sympathy vote but they just said that it's happening and shut up shop. On the face of it, it looks more of an unplanned inconvenience rather than real problem but it's a shame that grown adults can't act like them. Having said that, ever heard of propoganda? This is all straight out of the Cyril Crane book of speedway promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 loving a grudge match.... Looking forward to seeing a highly motivated Panthers crush the Sheffield Puddy cats over 2 legs!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 tbf youve reached the play offs with mostly other teams riders this season, why change now? Lol. Pots and kettles spring to mind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Bit of a storm in a teacup in the end, because all 3 riders could actually make the meeting, but have obviously had to change their travel plans. Really pleased they have all made the effort, & hope the inconvenience fires them up to stuff the Tigers. Adds a bit of needle to the tie, & I'm really looking forward to a friendly evening with the lovely security at Owlerton LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 And to answer a previous post, why should Sheffield have known the panthers 3 would be missing on the 17th when there are no fixture clashes that day? of course they would know, eff-eff-ess! Anyway, problem solved now Tungate, porsing, Covatti Lambert (cough) I'd been looking at the latest PL greensheets on the BSPA site - but I'd forgotten about Porsing. Hope he's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.