bigcatdiary Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Looking at the weather forecast it will be off on the 17th. We will then run it on the 24th. That will make all the Panthers fan's happy. But the Tiger's will still win it over 2 legs. I agree about the weather forecast, it certainly isn't looking very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Sheffield have had the 10th, 17th and 24th down as reserve since as far back as at least June. Stop lying, it make people question anything else you have to say that is not so easy to prove right or wrong. https://web.archive.org/web/20150707162546/http://www.speedwaygb.co/september15 https://web.archive.org/web/20150516034239/http://www.sheffieldspeedway.co/fixtures15 But the 10th was before the season ended. So why are you sticking that date up as one they had set aside for the post-season play-offs ? Also, Sheffield had every flippin' Thursday listed on their fixture list - either with a meeting or "reserved". And those Thursdays before the season ended that are marked as "reserved" would be for rearranged meetings, not for play-offs! So I suggest it's you who is speaking with a forked tongue! Are Sheffield scared of facing Panthers with a full team? Edited September 14, 2015 by PE7Panther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Looking at the weather forecast it will be off on the 17th. We will then run it on the 24th. That will make all the Panthers fan's happy. But the Tiger's will still win it over 2 legs. That's not a problem. We've messed up regularly since 2006 so we can handle losing. It's the moving goalposts and lack of transparency from our sports guardians that's more of a problem, if not unexpected. With the Sheffield clock ticking at 3 days it's too late to do anything about this fixture so I'd imagine that Panthers Select line-up was the subject of negotiations behind the scenes. I'm looking forward to Sheffield's press release explaining how they could have taken on the real Peterborough next week but decided a select side would be easier - a win's a win after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 When is the BSPA going to confirm if the meeting is scheduled for this week, weather permitting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 When is the BSPA going to confirm if the meeting is scheduled for this week, weather permitting ? A confirmed date for the meeting at Peterborough would be good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Agree Tigerite, It appears the fans aren't considered important as usual. Feel it would be good to have the matches on consecutive nights if possible. Would be a bit ironic if the 17th is implemented, & then gets rained off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Looking at the weather forecast it will be off on the 17th. We will then run it on the 24th. That will make all the Panthers fan's happy. But the Tiger's will still win it over 2 legs. Think you will need a 15-20 point advantage from the home leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why is everybody presuming that Peterborough will be weakened by having guests? If they pick well, it might actually make them a stronger side around Owlerton... Just a thought. The other fact to consider is that we have around 6 weeks to get in 3 meetings, given the way the weather has turned this last week, it's not an unrealistic prospect that we have 2 or 3 rain offs in which case we may struggle to get matches completed- lets just get on with it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Cant see us being stronger, teams not included in the play offs, doesnt leave us much. Rather have Emil/Anders and Ben and go out with our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 But the 10th was before the season ended. So why are you sticking that date up as one they had set aside for the post-season play-offs ? Also, Sheffield had every flippin' Thursday listed on their fixture list - either with a meeting or "reserved". And those Thursdays before the season ended that are marked as "reserved" would be for rearranged meetings, not for play-offs! So I suggest it's you who is speaking with a forked tongue! Are Sheffield scared of facing Panthers with a full team? So it wasn't you that said the following? Funny how it contradicts with the bit in bold above. I suggest you stop digging. yes, but it's not the date that was "reserved" against Sheffield's name on the BSPA fixtures page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 But the 10th was before the season ended. So why are you sticking that date up as one they had set aside for the post-season play-offs ? The season ends on 31st October, the play offs are ridden in season. Also, Sheffield had every flippin' Thursday listed on their fixture list - either with a meeting or "reserved". And those Thursdays before the season ended that are marked as "reserved" would be for rearranged meetings, not for play-offs! Sheffield's original reserved play off dates were the 10th & 17th with October 1st for the final. Peterborough's were the 4th, 6th & 13th with October 2nd for the final. Those are what appear on the original draft of the International Speedway League calendar in February. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMNS Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why are Peterborough missing riders? Under 21 final isn't until Saturday, with practice being at 10am on Saturday 19th http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/55457/no_cache/1/ Surely that means the missing riders can ride at Sheffield Thursday, giving them all day Friday to get to the final, ready for practice and the final on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Why is everybody presuming that Peterborough will be weakened by having guests? If they pick well, it might actually make them a stronger side around Owlerton... Just a thought. The other fact to consider is that we have around 6 weeks to get in 3 meetings, given the way the weather has turned this last week, it's not an unrealistic prospect that we have 2 or 3 rain offs in which case we may struggle to get matches completed- lets just get on with it!! It's not going to be Peterborough though is it. It's Peterborough Select due to foreseen and avoidable circumstances. It's r/r, 3 guests, MPT, the Pole and Lambert I assume. Should be a corker! Will be interesting to see what the behind closed door negotiations delivered on the team front, if anything? Edited September 14, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 One of the guests is due to injury, so not really relevant as to whether you ride this week or not. My point is why should we risk not getting all of the meetings completed before the end of season because Peterborough chose to sign 2 riders that they knew would be absent shortly after the play off window commenced. In any event, why shouldn't Sheffield take advantage?!? I wouldn't expect Peterborough to slacken off the pressure just to be nice to us - it's a business as well as a sport and by progressing to the next round it will get Sheffield another meeting and therefore make them more money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Will we even find out what's happening before the first leg? It's fine, we didn't want to go support our team...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 One of the guests is due to injury, so not really relevant as to whether you ride this week or not. My point is why should we risk not getting all of the meetings completed before the end of season because Peterborough chose to sign 2 riders that they knew would be absent shortly after the play off window commenced. In any event, why shouldn't Sheffield take advantage?!? I wouldn't expect Peterborough to slacken off the pressure just to be nice to us - it's a business as well as a sport and by progressing to the next round it will get Sheffield another meeting and therefore make them more money They signed them when finishing second was still a possibility but recent results have left them in forth and now facing the fifth placed team if anyone could of predicted the poor results then it would of been a blatant case of cheating would it not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 One of the guests is due to injury, so not really relevant as to whether you ride this week or not. My point is why should we risk not getting all of the meetings completed before the end of season because Peterborough chose to sign 2 riders that they knew would be absent shortly after the play off window commenced. In any event, why shouldn't Sheffield take advantage?!? I wouldn't expect Peterborough to slacken off the pressure just to be nice to us - it's a business as well as a sport and by progressing to the next round it will get Sheffield another meeting and therefore make them more money Firstly, who knew what and when is relevant. If we messed up (as we have done before) then I have little sympathy. Did Peterborough know the play off dates? Have any of the known dates changed? Would they not have expected some common sense when agreeing dates? I'd expect Peterborough to be flexible in such circumstances for the credibility of the sport but appreciate that it rarely works like that. Your second point sums up speedway really. Win at all costs, cheat the public because enough will come back for another dose in these circumstances, if not again when they eventually look at the detail of it all. They signed them when finishing second was still a possibility but recent results have left them in forth and now facing the fifth placed team if anyone could of predicted the poor results then it would of been a blatant case of cheating would it not That's not much of an argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Also reading the Coventry v Poole play off thread Coventry seem to be sweating on Garritys fitness for Friday so he maybe missing thurs if it goes ahead. Firstly, who knew what and when is relevant. If we messed up (as we have done before) then I have little sympathy. Did Peterborough know the play off dates? Have any of the known dates changed? Would they not have expected some common sense when agreeing dates? I'd expect Peterborough to be flexible in such circumstances for the credibility of the sport but appreciate that it rarely works like that. Your second point sums up speedway really. Win at all costs, cheat the public because enough will come back for another dose in these circumstances, if not again when they eventually look at the detail of it all. That's not much of an argument. Left the long argument to you didnt want to tread on your toes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 .so we should be punished just because we happened to end up with Sheffield who normaly ride on a Thursday which happens to be the one night half our team is missing..is that really how you want 6 months hard work to be played out?..a free passage through?..hardly fair is it? and i guarantee should it have been the other way round Ged would agree to another date without question because he is a speedway man and its the right thing to do..sound like you lot are "win at all costs" unfortunately similar to a lot of other selfish people these days...I can honestly say that if it was the other way round I wouldn't want Sheffield down here with half a team as it makes even more a mockery of this tinpot sport that is British speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 .so we should be punished just because we happened to end up with Sheffield who normaly ride on a Thursday which happens to be the one night half our team is missing..is that really how you want 6 months hard work to be played out?..a free passage through?..hardly fair is it? and i guarantee should it have been the other way round Ged would agree to another date without question because he is a speedway man and its the right thing to do..sound like you lot are "win at all costs" unfortunately similar to a lot of other selfish people these days...I can honestly say that if it was the other way round I wouldn't want Sheffield down here with half a team as it makes even more a mockery of this tinpot sport that is British speedway.tbf youve reached the play offs with mostly other teams riders this season, why change now? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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