peterborough daz Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why Is Barker missing? We should get a facility for Ostergaard, Thomsen and Grondal, even though I can't see guests of that calibre available in all of the teams who haven't qualified. I would go for something like. Covatti for Barker Aarnio for Grondal Porsing for Ostergaard R/R for Thomsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why Is Barker missing? We should get a facility for Ostergaard, Thomsen and Grondal, even though I can't see guests of that calibre available in all of the teams who haven't qualified. I would go for something like. Covatti for Barker Aarnio for Grondal Porsing for Ostergaard R/R for Thomsen whens the under 21 meeting ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Dont see why the meeting has to be done this week as the winers race Edinburgh.who race on a Friday.Edinburgh at home 25/9 v Glasgow L C Final following Fri 2/10 pos K O C Final v Somerset. Could race same w/e as L C Final Edited September 14, 2015 by MANSE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 whens the under 21 meeting ??? Saturday I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) No-one gives a rubbish about Peterborough other than themselves. You're another PL club now so suck it up and get on with it. Very well put. It reminds me of your dad's keynote speech: " I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter." But according to the BSPA site (qv), the date Sheffield had set aside ("reserved") is the 24th. http://www.speedwaygb.co/september15 So it seems that the dates for this H & A play-off between Sheffield & Panthers would be the 24th (at Sheff) and the 25th (at the EoES) because those are the dates "reserved" for play-off home legs for the respective clubs. Maybe Sheffield realised Panthers would be disadvantaged by having a couple of key riders missing on that earlier Thursday (17th), and maybe it's a crafty move by them to try to railroad it in on the 17th. I did think that there was more to this than meets the eye but can't access the BSPA site so thanks for that. It all seems a bit opportunist. Who gave them the ok to name the 17th anyway and were Peterborough consulted. You can't just pluck a date out of the air because it suits you and then get the cleaner at Rugby to ok it because they were the only person in the office at the time to answer the phone. I thought that the PL was slightly credible but it is turning into as big a joke as the EL. With the Sheffield clock ticking down to this joke of a fixture (can we have a clown in the top right corner?) then they need to make the logical decision quickly (unless we (Panthers) were consulted recently in which case we get on with it). Sheffield have 24th reserved on their fixture list and Panthers have the 25th reserved on theirs. I don't really see what the fuss is about or why Sheffield seemed to have jumped the gun Edited September 14, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolPanther Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have never been and will never go to a Speedway match to watch my team win by any means,I go to watch good racing,it might not seem credible to some,but I would rather see my team lose by one point and have it exciting,if the Sheffield promotion and Sheffield fans want to watch dross because of tactics it makes me sad. If this match is forced on us I hope our management can sort out a half decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) But according to the BSPA site (qv), the date Sheffield had set aside ("reserved") is the 24th. http://www.speedwaygb.co/september15 So it seems that the dates for this H & A play-off between Sheffield & Panthers would be the 24th (at Sheff) and the 25th (at the EoES) because those are the dates "reserved" for play-off home legs for the respective clubs. Maybe Sheffield realised Panthers would be disadvantaged by having a couple of key riders missing on that earlier Thursday (17th), and maybe it's a crafty move by them to try to railroad it in on the 17th. Ged Rathbone won't just roll over. But if Panthers are forced to cave in I hope Ged rustles up a couple of cracking guests. And if he does, and if Panthers come away with a win, the squealing will be oh so sweet to hear. yes, but it's not the date that was "reserved" against Sheffield's name on the BSPA fixtures page. http://www.speedwaygb.co/september15 The 24th is the date that was always "reserved" against Sheffield's name. The fixture has suddenly appeared as listed for the 17th because Sheffield unilaterally decided on the 17th once they knew they'd be facing Panthers - and, crafty devils, they spotted that we'd have key riders missing. Panthers should have a say in it too. Sheffield have had the 10th, 17th and 24th down as reserve since as far back as at least June. Stop lying, it make people question anything else you have to say that is not so easy to prove right or wrong. https://web.archive.org/web/20150707162546/http://www.speedwaygb.co/september15 https://web.archive.org/web/20150516034239/http://www.sheffieldspeedway.co/fixtures15 Edited September 14, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Just to back up SCB's point: From what I recall, Sheffield only removed the 10th as a reserve date on their website around last Monday/Tuesday. I was checking, because Bellego was guesting for Scunny last week (ended up being Compton as well, after Theo pulled out on Wednesday), and part of the publicity was trying to lure the Sheffield fans across, which would be much easier if they didn't have a meeting themselves last week. The 17th was always there as a reserve date for Sheffield. Sheffield have had two blank Thursdays on the trot; is it really fair to expect them to have a third one? The date has been there since the start of the season. All the best Rob Edited September 14, 2015 by lucifer sam 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just to back up SCB's point: From what I recall, Sheffield only removed the 10th as a reserve date on their website around last Monday/Tuesday. I was checking, because Bellego was guesting for Scunny last week (ended up being Compton as well, after Theo pulled out on Wednesday), and part of the publicity was trying to lure the Sheffield fans across, which would be much easier if they didn't have a meeting themselves last week. The 17th was always there as a reserve date for Sheffield. Sheffield have had two blank Thursdays on the trot; is it really fair to expect them to have a third one? The date has been there since the start of the season. All the best Rob The could have arranged a challenge or other meeting of some sort, as Panthers did in July (ironically against Sheffield) when they had a similar break. Rathbone spotted the problem so why didn't Sheffield? "We desperately needed another home fixture during July otherwise we would have had a five-week gap between the victory over Redcar on Sunday and entertaining Edinburgh on August 9. That would obviously have been far from ideal for the riders and the supporters." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The could have arranged a challenge or other meeting of some sort, as Panthers did in July (ironically against Sheffield) when they had a similar break. Rathbone spotted the problem so why didn't Sheffield? "We desperately needed another home fixture during July otherwise we would have had a five-week gap between the victory over Redcar on Sunday and entertaining Edinburgh on August 9. That would obviously have been far from ideal for the riders and the supporters." We probably didn't put a challenge meeting on as we fully expected to be riding our first playoff meeting this Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think the play offs are a brilliant idea, but this does empthasise that 6 teams qualifying for the play offs with a 'Semi Final' round is absolute nonsence - too many fixtures and not enough dates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) The could have arranged a challenge or other meeting of some sort, as Panthers did in July (ironically against Sheffield) when they had a similar break. Rathbone spotted the problem so why didn't Sheffield? "We desperately needed another home fixture during July otherwise we would have had a five-week gap between the victory over Redcar on Sunday and entertaining Edinburgh on August 9. That would obviously have been far from ideal for the riders and the supporters." So, that was a league match then, not "a challenge or other meeting of some sort". Sheffield have finished their regular league meetings. They are now ready for the play-offs, and Thursday has been their reserved date for the play-offs since the start of the season. There are six weeks of the season remaining, and it's time to get on with the play-offs, otherwise the PL will be squeezing in the final in the last week of October once more, on a wing and a prayer. Maybe it's high time for fixed dates for the PL play-offs, just as in the EL. That would stop all the nonsense we have from Peterborough at the moment, and from other clubs in other seasons e.g. in 2012, when Workington kept on turning down Edinburgh's dates, and it then got rained off on October 19th, and Denham was hoist on his own petard because the Comets lost out off-track, which was hard to take for their fans. Fixed date play-offs may also gain TV coverage. All the best Rob Edited September 14, 2015 by lucifer sam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Surely the Sheffield management want as many Panthers fans at Owlerton as possible ? If we are forced to ride with a team of guests & RR it will put a lot of fans off attending. Getting time off work at short notice is another potential problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) We probably didn't put a challenge meeting on as we fully expected to be riding our first playoff meeting this Thursday. Which brings us back to who agreed all of this and based on what as it clearly isn't a convenient date when a suitable one is available. It was pencilled in last Thursday and allegedly agreed with Peterborough on Friday, the same day that Rathbone said that he had not agreed it. If it had been nipped in the bud at that point then Sheffield could hopefully have fixed up something for the 17th. Edited September 14, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 No-one gives a rubbish about Peterborough other than themselves. You're another PL club now so suck it up and get on with it. I think you will find that applies to every club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 These last 4 pages show how big a joke the sport is,now we can't even arrange a fixture . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 So, that was a league match then, not "a challenge or other meeting of some sort". Sheffield have finished their regular league meetings. They are now ready for the play-offs, and Thursday has been their reserved date for the play-offs since the start of the season. There are six weeks of the season remaining, and it's time to get on with the play-offs, otherwise the PL will be squeezing in the final in the last week of October once more, on a wing and a prayer. Maybe it's high time for fixed dates for the PL play-offs, just as in the EL. That would stop all the nonsense we have from Peterborough at the moment, and from other clubs in other seasons e.g. in 2012, when Workington kept on turning down Edinburgh's dates, and it then got rained off on October 19th, and Denham was hoist on his own petard because the Comets lost out off-track, which was hard to take for their fans. Fixed date play-offs may also gain TV coverage. All the best Rob The bigger picture isn't Peterborough's problem. As for our nonsense, unless you know the full facts (I know no more than anyone else either) then who knows who's created the nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) The bigger picture isn't Peterborough's problem. As for our nonsense, unless you know the full facts (I know no more than anyone else either) then who knows who's created the nonsense. The only fact that is relevant is that Peterborough have tried to turn down a reserved play-off date that has been in Sheffield's fixtures since the start of the season. It shouldn't be allowed... and judging by the fact the fixture is listed on the BSPA website, it hasn't been allowed. All the best Rob Edited September 14, 2015 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) The only fact that is relevant is that Peterborough have tried to turn down a reserved play-off date that has been in Sheffield's fixtures since the start of the season. All the best Rob So it wasn't convenient and would short change both sets of fans as a Panthers Select side rolls up for one of the BSPA's season showpiece fixtures. Therefore Panthers are happy to provide credible value for money opposition on the 24th. As has been pointed out: "Sheffield have had the 10th, 17th and 24th down as reserve since as far back as at least June." so surely agreeing one of those dates is not a unilateral decision. Panthers are happy to agree the 24th so where's the problem? Edited September 14, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Looking at the weather forecast it will be off on the 17th. We will then run it on the 24th. That will make all the Panthers fan's happy. But the Tiger's will still win it over 2 legs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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