Shale Searcher Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Just wondering. Will the FTR'S current club get first dibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yeah and how do they decide what average they start on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yeah and how do they decide what average they start on PL average converted. Bees will have Garrity in the top 5 almost certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy robin Posted September 11, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Garrity, Newman & Worrall should all be promoted & it will be ridiculous if they don't. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Are there enough FTR'S and good enough to go into the 1-5. I make it Garrity, Auty, Newman, Kerr and Steve Worrall. Charles Wright at a push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Are there enough FTR'S and good enough to go into the 1-5. I make it Garrity, Auty, Newman, Kerr and Steve Worrall. Charles Wright at a push. Lewis will be coming back from a bad injury so should be given some dispensation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Doesn't Charles Wright have a second year as he was only allowed to be used as a guest last year? I would expect to see Newman in the Poole 1-5 for 2016. Edited September 11, 2015 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would give the top starting FT rider an average of 4 and the other one an average of 3. I would revert back to the old format and let them take their chances, such as Garrity might well end up as heat leader. I would still give them a guaranteed status for one year and then scrap the FT. After that I would have a rule that each club has two under 25 British riders every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFastTurnLeft Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would be disappointed if Newman didn't get a promotion into the 1-5 he's definitely earned it. The Bees would be crazy not to promote Garrity. Charles Wright should also get one IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Scrap this ridiculous charade....the only reason the top placed teams are at the top is because Garrity and Newman etc have been generally injury free and have for the most part riding against other lads who are so far off the pace and will never be good enough to attain even a regular premier league place. In too many matches the top 5 riders of one team are outscoring the opposition by 6 or more points only to lose the match because say Newman and Stark have outpointed say simon lambert and max clegg 15-5, surely that can't be fair. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 ^^^^^^^^^^^ Bad loser spouts test-icicles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Scrap this ridiculous charade....the only reason the top placed teams are at the top is because Garrity and Newman etc have been generally injury free and have for the most part riding against other lads who are so far off the pace and will never be good enough to attain even a regular premier league place. In too many matches the top 5 riders of one team are outscoring the opposition by 6 or more points only to lose the match because say Newman and Stark have outpointed say simon lambert and max clegg 15-5, surely that can't be fair. That has always happened, reserves are and always will be key. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Scrap this ridiculous charade....the only reason the top placed teams are at the top is because Garrity and Newman etc have been generally injury free and have for the most part riding against other lads who are so far off the pace and will never be good enough to attain even a regular premier league place. In too many matches the top 5 riders of one team are outscoring the opposition by 6 or more points only to lose the match because say Newman and Stark have outpointed say simon lambert and max clegg 15-5, surely that can't be fair. Â Which Fast Track riders have been unable to attain a PL spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 In the good old days of the 70s and 80s with the TacSub rule teams who won always had riders 2,6 and 7 swapping team position due to averages so you always had a rider in decent form at 2 and team managers who had the opportunity to make tactical changed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'd like to see an end to protected heats for the no6 and allow averages to dictate who rides where in the top 6 as the season unfolds. The only proviso is that for the start of the season both reserves must be British. If they are good enough they'll end up in the top five anyway. Â It would need another rework of the heat format and a conversion from the current draft average to an EL average and a rule to the effect that that the no7 has 4 rides. Â One for the clever people to sort out. we have big trouble then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 That has always happened, reserves are and always will be key. Except that in the past if a reserve was injured or under performing you could replace him with someone more or less the same standard. Now if your EDR reserve is injured or loses form you are stuck with someone lower down the tier, often far lower d own the tier. There has to be some levelling o f who is included in the EDR lists. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Which Fast Track riders have been unable to attain a PL spot? Adam Ellis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Adam Ellis.that was due to logistics rather than ability though.The original comment was some of tge no7s werent even good enough for the PL. No comparison with Adam there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 That has always happened, reserves are and always will be key. Try reading the post. They are suggesting there is a huge imbalance - all within the rules but hardly a level playing field. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Scrap this ridiculous charade....the only reason the top placed teams are at the top is because Garrity and Newman etc have been generally injury free and have for the most part riding against other lads who are so far off the pace and will never be good enough to attain even a regular premier league place. In too many matches the top 5 riders of one team are outscoring the opposition by 6 or more points only to lose the match because say Newman and Stark have outpointed say simon lambert and max clegg 15-5, surely that can't be fair. Â It was only a matter of time before people would realise what a ridiculous idea this is. Top Draft riders are more important to the team now than the No1, and that can't be right. Protected heats, on a bias basic, is one of the main reasons teams have reached the PO's. Totally down to the form of their reserves. Newman, Garrity, Worrall and Wright. For the second year second running Lynn has suffered by the injury to Kerr, and the rules don't allow teams a permanent replacement. Â Bring back the old way when teams had 7 riders all using the same format and with a compatible average. Allow each club to sort their own team, with the proviso being minimum of 2 or 3 British nationality. Â Why complicate the rules when they could be so straight forward and easy to understand....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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