LagutaRacingFan Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Batchelor and Schlein have been number 1's in the past, what's to say that Rob Lyon won't recreate the magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 If that's the case, so be it. Rather that than manipulate other clubs and bend the rules because we cocked up. Better to finish bottom of the league than be labelled cheats! Spot on. How bad a winter the club has had is irrelevant really, it would be unforgivable if Buster used his position to unfairly gain some kind of advantage. Without integrity and fair play we might as well all pack up and go home. I'd not want to be like other club(s) and win things through bending rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 The team averages was to high. scb said it as soon as it was released and he was right again. But there are plenty of riders to go around for Leicester and Lynn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 The management need to be honest and admit they've fooked up. Things have been pretty embarrassing for the club since about May / June last season. Things feel like they're getting worse as the days role by. Just stick Nicklas Porsing and Simon Lambert in and let the sh!t flow now. Nobody wants to come, we get it. We won't chuck silly money about, we get it. Not having a fans forum for the first time in donkeys for team announcements to me gave a huge negative impression on our management team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm told Kenni Larsen is very close to signing for Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm told Kenni Larsen is very close to signing for Lynn. More chance of Kenny Bjerre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The management need to be honest and admit they've fooked up. Things have been pretty embarrassing for the club since about May / June last season. Things feel like they're getting worse as the days role by. Just stick Nicklas Porsing and Simon Lambert in and let the sh!t flow now. Nobody wants to come, we get it. We won't chuck silly money about, we get it. Not having a fans forum for the first time in donkeys for team announcements to me gave a huge negative impression on our management team. there could be some lodgic in using Porsing and Lambert both Lynn assets both I guess would jump at the chance to ride in the team downside way way under the points limit . As I've said all winter and your right this goes back into last season things have changed at the club for the worse not sure why but the PR side is dire not sure who's to blame we can't be quick to blame Marc Gent but he can only release what he's told by Buster and Rob I just wish some kind of press releases was made about what's going on regarding the team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 If Buster goes with a weakened team that will end up bottom, then the crowds will fall away. If Buster is one thing, then that is he is a smart Businessman and No way is he going to allow himself to run with a weakened team. Look at the gates we had In Waggy's last season at Lynn when he put out a team that was always going to end up bottom. Buster knows what he is doing ( I Hope) but all this uncertainty is not doing the Club any favours. He really needs to pull a stellar signing out of the hat to repair at lot of the damage already done. If That breaks the odd rule and a few of the die hards take umbridge but it brings in a good few floating fans then, The Club wont have lost anything. The Rules of Speedway have been twisted, bent, turned upside down to suit indivdual Clubs in years gone by. So why should people worry if it happens again ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 If Buster goes with a weakened team that will end up bottom, then the crowds will fall away. If Buster is one thing, then that is he is a smart Businessman and No way is he going to allow himself to run with a weakened team. Look at the gates we had In Waggy's last season at Lynn when he put out a team that was always going to end up bottom. Buster knows what he is doing ( I Hope) but all this uncertainty is not doing the Club any favours. He really needs to pull a stellar signing out of the hat to repair at lot of the damage already done. If That breaks the odd rule and a few of the die hards take umbridge but it brings in a good few floating fans then, The Club wont have lost anything. The Rules of Speedway have been twisted, bent, turned upside down to suit indivdual Clubs in years gone by. So why should people worry if it happens again ? the problem is a signing we need ie a no1 there isn't such a rider that's wants to race a full season over here. As for the no6 position we should go with Simon Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 If Buster goes with a weakened team that will end up bottom, then the crowds will fall away. If Buster is one thing, then that is he is a smart Businessman and No way is he going to allow himself to run with a weakened team. Look at the gates we had In Waggy's last season at Lynn when he put out a team that was always going to end up bottom. Buster knows what he is doing ( I Hope) but all this uncertainty is not doing the Club any favours. He really needs to pull a stellar signing out of the hat to repair at lot of the damage already done. If That breaks the odd rule and a few of the die hards take umbridge but it brings in a good few floating fans then, The Club wont have lost anything. The Rules of Speedway have been twisted, bent, turned upside down to suit indivdual Clubs in years gone by. So why should people worry if it happens again ? Of course at the moment there is nothing to suggest that King's Lynn are going to do anything to break the rules or to engineer a change. However, I find it incredible that anyone would encourage and condone any twisting or bending of the rules on the basis that others have done it. That is a recipe to totally destroy any credibility the sport has and to make any success in the league meaningless. It is even worse that people would think it acceptable for the new Chairman of the BSPA, the man we are relying on to put the sport back on the road to recovery, should be the one to do it for the benefit of his own club. I have no objection and hope that other clubs want to help King's Lynn and Leicester providing that help does not contravene the rules or disadvantage the remaining clubs who got their teams organised. King's Lynn have had the same opportunities as everyone else to build their team and should bear the consequences if they are now in difficulties. I don't recall any help being given when David Gordon and Chris Morton took over the Aces and faced problems because most of the other teams had been sorted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't think Buster will break any rules.But people will say he has broke the rules if he gets a rider of the same standard as Kerr at reserve.But in my view that is fair,just like if say Auty or Newman say I don't think the EL is for me,to me their clubs should be entitled to replace them with an equal standard rider.People will only look at Buster as not breaking any rule if he has Lambert,Roynon or those standard riders at reserve not matter what is raised and voted on at the BSPA meeting today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't recall any help being given when David Gordon and Chris Morton took over the Aces and faced problems because most of the other teams had been sorted. Was that the right decision though? I don't want the Stars or Lions to be understrength nor does any other club surely, what good is that to their business, we'll see what happens...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I find all this talk about Buster going to break rules quiet dis-concerning. Lynn have committed no crime and are guilty of one issue, and that was in changing race night from Wednesday to Thursdays. The punishment of this crime has been severe, in that we have lost all positioning of the selection process. When we look at this twisted process where Kerr is ranked as No 1, Why would Buster use Kerr as their protected rider, knowingly it would dictate having last choice of Tier 2, if there was any chance that Kerr would do a runner.... Its was a lose/lose situation. There were suppose to be 12, Tier 1 riders, Each team being allowed the 1st first pick, and those tier 1 riders not selected goes into the second tier, whence the selection process continues until all teams have 2 draft riders.... Some team will finish with 2 tier 1 riders and the other only 1.......In Lynn's case we now have none....... Had Buster not protected Kerr, then the first team on the selection list would have been allowed picked him and Buster would have taken his projected position in the selection process. and choose his tier 1 rider. Kerr, on the other hand would have had to ride for the team that picked him or forego the draft scheme and ride in a team proper. Now lets move on to the situation that allowed Kerr to sign for Lakeside. How was that allow to happen?? Just because Lakeside's nominated rider had withdrawn, it doesn't given them the authority to sign the top rider without going through the selection process. Now if Kerr can pick and choose where he wants to ride than what stopping other people doing the same...... Now all these posters crying out about breaking rules, Ask yourself, How is it that some teams have two top draft riders while others have none. Is that fair?? Is it fair that when Lakeside nominated rider retired and have been allowed to choose another out of the selected order.???... Yet Lynn's only crime was to change race nights, and for that they have been penalised big-time...... So don't talk to me about fairness and rules, If you ask me the whole sport stinks......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't think Buster will break any rules.But people will say he has broke the rules if he gets a rider of the same standard as Kerr at reserve.But in my view that is fair,just like if say Auty or Newman say I don't think the EL is for me,to me their clubs should be entitled to replace them with an equal standard rider.People will only look at Buster as not breaking any rule if he has Lambert,Roynon or those standard riders at reserve not matter what is raised and voted on at the BSPA meeting today. With regards Kerr, no one is disputing that Lynn deserve an equal standard replacement (even tho the situation they find themselves in is of there own making) however it must be from the established list. To be able to select a rider NOT from the list means they are getting a much better standard rider which is unfair to the remaining teams and setting a very dangerous precedent IMHO. It belies the question ..... why change the race night supposedly to attract a number one that appears they haven't and jeopardise using their own prized reserve asset? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 You have a valid point there GRW123 re Kerr to Lakeside.Should they have been able just to grab him? Blackbird calling it a day has put the draft system into a bit of a shambles.Yes I would suspect with Kerr becoming available other teams could have had the option to choose him before Lakeside did.But did any other club get asked the question whether they wanted Kerr,i very much doubt it.Maybe other clubs wouldn't want him,but should still have been consulted. With regards Kerr, no one is disputing that Lynn deserve an equal standard replacement (even tho the situation they find themselves in is of there own making) however it must be from the established list. To be able to select a rider NOT from the list means they are getting a much better standard rider which is unfair to the remaining teams and setting a very dangerous precedent IMHO.It belies the question ..... why change the race night supposedly to attract a number one that appears they haven't and jeopardise using their own prized reserve asset? Where do you get the change of race night was to attract a number 1.Buster actually said it was to get ready for 1-2 night racing in the future didn't he. How do you suggest Lynn get an equal standard when having the 17th choice rider as number 1 reserve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Swindon got shafted a couple of years ago when our 1st pick Josh Bates cried off, leaving us with, well, not a lot. we got shafted then and now it's Kings Lynn's turn... I'm afraid you'll have to grin and bare it like we did, it wasn't nice then and it certainly isn't any better now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yet Lynn's only crime was to change race nights, and for that they have been penalised big-time...... So don't talk to me about fairness and rules, If you ask me the whole sport stinks......... But it was the most important thing without that Kerr would still be there rider ...no doubt when they Selected Kerr is was base on what race night they choose . The Draft picks were all done with race nights in mind ....No one ask Kings lynn to change there race night they done that themselves so quite rightly when they moved the goalposts moved . If Swindon signed Charles Wright then after changed there race night to a Friday then Charles would quite righty want to not to ride for them the same as Kerr has ... Kings Lynn only have themselves to blame 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I am somewhat puzzled as to why Lynn should not take the blame for the Kerr situation. As I understand it, they signed him therefore giving up any other advantages with draft riders, after that he signed for Ipswich and Lynn decided to ride on Thursdays (not sure in which order). Now as I see it, Lynn had two choices - don't change to Thursday or don't allow Kerr to ride at Ipswich (unless Lynn take priority). For whatever reason Lynn did neither. That is not the fault of the other EL teams, it is purely Lynn's choice. Blackbird not riding is a red herring. Would the Lynn apologists be quite happy for Lakeside to be allowed to use a non listed rider? I'm still of the opinion that Lynn put all their plans on NKI riding in 2016 and had no back up plan and it's backfired. I hope I'm wrong and Buster pulls a rabbit out of the hat (as long as it's not a bjerre-rabbit) for the no 1 spot. Several sports are having their integrity questioned at present, maybe this is all a BSPA plot to get media attention Edited January 19, 2016 by Star Lady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Why did KL change race nights anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Why did KL change race nights anyway? The Stars management have also confirmed that Elite League racing at the Adrian Flux Arena will now take place on Thursday nights. Explaining the reasons behind the change, Stars chief Buster Chapman said: “For the long-term future of the club we feel that switching race nights will be more beneficial for many reasons. The likelihood is that the Elite League will be pushed towards fixed night racing and we want to be prepared for that possibility. “More and more riders are becoming unavailable on Wednesday’s due to the Danish Superleague so moving to a Thursday night will give us more options.” the above is taken from the official Lynn site posted on December 6th. Incidentally Kerr's signing was announced on November 7th, so something must have happened between the two dates. It seems inconceivable to me that an experienced promoter like Buster would allow he Kerr situation to happen UNLESS he was pretty sure of a really good signing at number 1. To me that means GP standard (below that losing Kerr just isn't worth it) the only likely candidates were Doyle and NKI with Kildemand and Nicki P outside possibilities. It makes absolutely no sense if not. I doubt we will ever know which one let them down Edited January 19, 2016 by Star Lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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