King's Lynn 2016

[Theboss]

this season we have been going through the motions from day one the season was a right off right from not holding a press and practice day the promotion couldn't be arsed and that rubs of on riders and fans alike - we was the only club as far as I no in the UK not to hold a press and practice that in itself was a disgrace. And it was down hill from that day on .

 

Haza you are talking a lot of sense, holding a press and practice day was something I always used to look forward to. As well as a way to introduce new riders to the fans and sponsors it was a great way to raise money for a local charity..... or as was the case back in 2006, Red nose day which was featured on National TV. It also was the best chance of getting the team together for some fun and mischief which helped create comradery between the riders.

 

When I arrived at King's Lynn it was in the days of Lawrence Rogers, and the club couldn't really go backwards after I witnessed the debacle of the multiple EF's. Once Lawrence was shipped out and Rob joined we moved forward t an astonishing rate, we found the right forumla and was the envy of many clubs. One of the many highlights for me was completing the Premier League treble in front of crowds in the multiple thousands rather than hundreds..... and that was in late October when a woolly hat and scarf was needed!

 

It was my idea to take King's Lynn into the Elite League and I believe that was the right decision at the time with the momentum we had behind us...... however I believe it is now the wrong place for King's Lynn to be and for any chance of the club to become a success again it must drop back down, get back to regular weekly meetings and build a team with loyal and passionate riders who the fans can relate to. On that basis I would be looking at signing up the following team (maybe over the limit but have no idea due to average conversions):

 

1. Robert Lambert

2. Michael Palm Toft (someone I tried signing from Scunthorpe back in the PL days)

2. Nicolas Porsing

3. Kai Huckenbeck

4. Lewis Kerr

5. Lewis Rose

6. Josh Bailey

7. Tom Stokes

 

Mascot: Chris Mills

[Bagpuss]

I agree, look at the riders we would potentially have to choose from in the second tier;

 

Lambert x 2

Porsing

Schlein

Kerr

Huckenbeck

Rose

Smith

Bailey

Stokes

 

I'd always like to see my club running at the highest level possible but maybe PL would suit us best right now. A fresh start would certainly be no bad thing IMO.

Edited September 8, 2016 by Gordon Bennett

[g13webb]

Hi JC.

 

What a refreshing change to hear some constructive ideas, that are both Positive and Practical. I too have spoken with my son on exactly the same idea, thinking along the lines we need to see a settled team on a weekly basis. Imagine the local rivalry with neighbours from Panthers, Ipswich and possibly Leicester, all close enough for the fans to travel to away meetings.

 

I have followed Niels for many years and appreciate his connection with the club, but we cannot continue along these present lines, when we don't know whether he will be riding or using a guest , if permitted. The rules the BSPA have inflicted on the Elite league has ruined any fairness that existed. Fixture clashes, double uppers, guests, multiply race nights have all played their part in the demise of the league. The sooner we go back to the Premier League the better.

 

Nice to hear from you again JC , I thought you had left the country....

[screm]

 

Haza you are talking a lot of sense, holding a press and practice day was something I always used to look forward to. As well as a way to introduce new riders to the fans and sponsors it was a great way to raise money for a local charity..... or as was the case back in 2006, Red nose day which was featured on National TV. It also was the best chance of getting the team together for some fun and mischief which helped create comradery between the riders.

 

When I arrived at King's Lynn it was in the days of Lawrence Rogers, and the club couldn't really go backwards after I witnessed the debacle of the multiple EF's. Once Lawrence was shipped out and Rob joined we moved forward t an astonishing rate, we found the right forumla and was the envy of many clubs. One of the many highlights for me was completing the Premier League treble in front of crowds in the multiple thousands rather than hundreds..... and that was in late October when a woolly hat and scarf was needed!

 

It was my idea to take King's Lynn into the Elite League and I believe that was the right decision at the time with the momentum we had behind us...... however I believe it is now the wrong place for King's Lynn to be and for any chance of the club to become a success again it must drop back down, get back to regular weekly meetings and build a team with loyal and passionate riders who the fans can relate to. On that basis I would be looking at signing up the following team (maybe over the limit but have no idea due to average conversions):

 

1. Robert Lambert

2. Michael Palm Toft (someone I tried signing from Scunthorpe back in the PL days)

2. Nicolas Porsing

3. Kai Huckenbeck

4. Lewis Kerr

5. Lewis Rose

6. Josh Bailey

7. Tom Stokes

 

Mascot: Chris Mills

 

I`d love to see Kings Lynn back in the PL, but it wont be with that team, not unless they raise the points limit, which they wont in fact I think a drop in the team average limit would be a good idea.

[Haza]

The PL is now a very different league to what it was when we last raced there - R/R and guest riders are the norm not regular race nights either in my opinion it's 2 or 3 seasons away from melt down - switch of leagues won't change the attitude of the promotion either - I for one would be very selective of meetings I'd watch if we switched yes Pbor Ipswich derbies would be great but wouldn't go every meeting .

[SteveLyric2]

Yes a team with 2 number twos is bound to be over the limit - full of $#!t mainly. ;-)

 

Particularly strange when MPT was signed for KL in 2012 - in the EL too!!

 

Its almost that you might not know what you are talking about?! ;-)

Edited September 8, 2016 by Skidder1

[Pirates Of Poole]

Batch now has a 4.96 average! Bargain for team building next year. I'm sure he will have plenty of offers on the table.

[Starman2006]

It would be awfully sad if both KL and Leicester went PL next season...

[screm]

It would be awfully sad if both KL and Leicester went PL next season...

 

Hopefully this wont happen but if my team, Berwick, were unable to come to the tapes or were in another league that would open a place up for Leicester or Kings Lynn.

[stevehone]

personally I'd like to see KL go PL, the PL years before were good fun, but I suspect the demographics have changed too much now and there wouldn't be enough of a difference from how it is at the moment with all the flying in and out etc, it would be too much like EL and I doubt it would even be much cheaper

[foreverblue]

I think it works for some teams to drop down to PL but although a lot have complained that the racing is worse now, would it be any better in PL because thats why fans turn up.

[Panthers89]

Batch now has a 4.96 average! Bargain for team building next year. I'm sure he will have plenty of offers on the table.

No surprised it's dropped off that much, with Lynn not having to ride for anything over the last few months, that's a lot of time to drop your average to be a man in demand!

 

Even premier league would be a 6.94......

[hans fan]

No surprised it's dropped off that much, with Lynn not having to ride for anything over the last few months, that's a lot of time to drop your average to be a man in demand!

 

Even premier league would be a 6.94......

I would hazard a guess he'll end up at Ipswich

 

can't see why lynn and panthers can't have a end of season challenge h & a , would certainly swell the old swag bag (big crowds) ,I can remember the last 1 when lynn were in premier

Edited September 9, 2016 by hans fan

[Bagpuss]

I think it works for some teams to drop down to PL but although a lot have complained that the racing is worse now, would it be any better in PL because thats why fans turn up.

I think regular fixtures and fewer guests and R/R would be a big attraction too. Not saying that it would be like it was 2003-10 but they were great times with a proper team spirit and a feel good factor around the club even though the racing wasnt always great.

[Daniel Smith]

I think regular fixtures and fewer guests and R/R would be a big attraction too. Not saying that it would be like it was 2003-10 but they were great times with a proper team spirit and a feel good factor around the club even though the racing wasnt always great.

 

There isn't fewer guests R/R in the current PL though due to rule changes from when we were last in that league.

To start the season we'd be fine with all our own assets but it's when injuries occur.

Employing assets of EL teams or riders already riding for EL teams would see the usual guest R/R problem.

 

Also, already pointed out that the feel good factor we had in the PL was created & built by JC.

Apart from probably just 1-2££ cheaper nothing much would be different to the current atmosphere problems around the stadium we already have.

Also the regular race night is a bit of a myth.

This season we'll of had 14 home fixtures, the PL fixtures are the same number, including their League Cup competition.

 

What needs sorting above everything next season regardless of what league we're in its how to make the supporter's feel part of the club again.

[semion]

The Club enjoyed some very successful days in The Prem, but in the end it went very stale. Fans were asking for Elite League Speedway ( me included) and got it. Now after a few years back in the Elite that now feels very stale. Riders coming in ( sometimes) doing their job ( sometimes) then off to the next gig.

 

If things have gone stale then time to change it again. Buster, or rather his boy saw the writing on the wall and was quick to react. Will Buster be that quick this time ?

[Shale Searcher]

The Premier League is in as much do do as the EL!!

Littered with guests, same number of doublers (obviously!!!) Random abscences, irregular fixture list, average manipulation, it's a league full of journeyman, failed EL riders and mediocre foreigners, with the token young British rider is an afterthought....

 

The whole EL/PL needs a major restructure, with Strict regulations on team building and race nights...

 

+ tons of other stuff..

[tellboy]

The Premier League is in as much do do as the EL!!

Littered with guests, same number of doublers (obviously!!!) Random abscences, irregular fixture list, average manipulation, it's a league full of journeyman, failed EL riders and mediocre foreigners, with the token young British rider is an afterthought....

 

The whole EL/PL needs a major restructure, with Strict regulations on team building and race nights...

 

+ tons of other stuff..

While i agree with most of your post.When you say the PL is full of journeyman,failed EL riders and mediocre foreigners,i could bet you that 75% of the EL is made up of the PL riders or ones that started off in the PL.This will always happen as it's part of progression in some riders minds.

Look at the current SGP riders i think at least 6 started at PL level.

[SteveLyric2]

Batch now has a 4.96 average! Bargain for team building next year. I'm sure he will have plenty of offers on the table.

Where do you get that average from? Are you keeping your own spreadsheet, cos it still says 5.49 on the latest BSPA averages!? (I realise that doesn't include this week's score)

[tellboy]

Where do you get that average from? Are you keeping your own spreadsheet, cos it still says 5.49 on the latest BSPA averages!? (I realise that doesn't include this week's score)

Kings Lynn website.