g13webb Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yes,the website has most definately improved and the frequency has improved.Some people like to moan just for the sake of it.It makes them happy when they are moaning Firstly, I hate to moan, I'm a half full kind of guy, not the half empty type. I try to concentrate on the positives, but that doesn't blank the obvious issues that do arise. In contrary to what you say about the website, I think it's taken a backward step, both in design and information. The frequency is alarming poor, and only the twitter feed keeps some upto date when information has been added. The announcement and team for the Swindon match wasn't posted until the day before the event. I thought Marc Gent was a top bloke who knew what needed to be done.. Very professional in everything he did. What a pity the Stars promotors didn't recognise his obvious talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Firstly, I hate to moan, I'm a half full kind of guy, not the half empty type. I try to concentrate on the positives, but that doesn't blank the obvious issues that do arise. In contrary to what you say about the website, I think it's taken a backward step, both in design and information. The frequency is alarming poor, and only the twitter feed keeps some upto date when information has been added. The announcement and team for the Swindon match wasn't posted until the day before the event. I thought Marc Gent was a top bloke who knew what needed to be done.. Very professional in everything he did. What a pity the Stars promotors didn't recognise his obvious talent. Frequency is so much better.Did you use to go on it before.Lucky to get 2 bits of information a week whether it be results or any form of news.Now we get it pretty regular 13 bits of information in the last 16 days that aint bad.Concentrate on the positives which that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) I'm always curious about how or why people think that riders aren't putting in the effort with all the other variables that are present in speedway. The bottom line is that points mean money, even if they were riding for themselves and not fussed about the team winning I don't see them travelling to Swindon and not be bothered to earn some money. While I understand that people care about the club and are frustrated about the season, continually bringing up what happened the other Wednesday isn't going to help anyone move forward, and the 'from what I've heard' stuff could be nonsense just easily as truth. The truth is that we are an average team and are going to lose plenty of meetings, it's more likely to be that we aren't good enough than that we don't give a monkeys. Personally I'd rather see us in the PL than EL next season given the choice, I think it would suit the club better right now and that with our asset base we could track a title challenging side. And yes, I know the racing was crap a lot of the time during our previous PL spell but to me it's straightforward, don't load the track with so much dirt. It would give the club a bit of fresh impetus with more regular fixtures and a greater variety of fixtures, plus the bonus of the 'novelty' events. Edited August 5, 2016 by Gordon Bennett 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 What and lose watching our TeamGB future and Norfolk boy, Robert Lambert and top man, NKI, as well as seeing Rory get back to his best, Batch find his full potential, Rosey continuing to improve, get Si Lambert back from injury and raring to go again and the improvement of Nicolaj ..... Of course a few of those boys could race PL too but with the potential changes to the league for next season I hope things generally improve, I think we have much to lose to go PL again, been there, done that, got loads of trophies ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 What and lose watching our TeamGB future and Norfolk boy, Robert Lambert and top man, NKI, as well as seeing Rory get back to his best, Batch find his full potential, Rosey continuing to improve, get Si Lambert back from injury and raring to go again and the improvement of Nicolaj ..... Of course a few of those boys could race PL too but with the potential changes to the league for next season I hope things generally improve, I think we have much to lose to go PL again, been there, done that, got loads of trophies ..... PL ain't for me either - I'd go but not every meeting not many fixtures would hold much appeal the last season in PL was poor been there seen it done it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) I'm hoping when you get this new stadium, the track is something to be proud of, that will generate good racing...... Probably the reason why the track has been as poor this year is because of the threats of a new stadium and track, not being willing to spend money on track improvements while they were being promised a brand new one at some point, what makes me suspicious even more now is why all of a sudden this late stage of the season we have new shale purchased? Does that mean the club have been informed that there is definatly no new Abbey next year? Will be interesting to see what the track rides like over the next two meetings whenever they will be! Edited August 6, 2016 by hagonshocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 PL ain't for me either - I'd go but not every meeting not many fixtures would hold much appeal the last season in PL was poor been there seen it done it . Quite interesting because I pick and choose now in the EL and probably wouldn't in the PL. As they say, you can't please all of the people all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Let's hope 2017 EL teams will all be strong and entertaining to you Quite interesting because I pick and choose now in the EL and probably wouldn't in the PL. As they say, you can't please all of the people all of the time. What criteria do you use when choosing whether to go to EL or not? How would it differ in the PL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Let's hope 2017 EL teams will all be strong and entertaining to you What criteria do you use when choosing whether to go to EL or not? How would it differ in the PL? for me EL I'd not miss any home meetings mainly because the score will be close and the win could go either way - PL going by when was last there 50% of the teams was beaten before a wheel was turned massive home wins I guess we now have Pboro and the Witches in the PL - PL =how many will we win by tonight EL =will we win tonight , and not being able to watch NKI and Robert Lambert each home meeting I think that would be me done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 maybe Haza and GB will both be happy next season then .. possible changes ahead in the structure I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 maybe Haza and GB will both be happy next season then .. possible changes ahead in the structure I reckon Hope they let us in on the secret soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I prefer elite league, but one thing to bear in mind was when we were premier league there was no air fence. PL riders were beaten psychologically by the solid fence. Maybe different now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I preferred the PL.As kelvinht said think the oppositions minds were more on the solid fence than their racing.With the safety barriers now in place i think the mindset of riders are a bit different to when we were in the PL and they can give it a bit more of a go.I preferred PL for the fact we had more variety in teams and we were racing every week at home.Plus the riders interacted with the fans so much more,which at the end of the day the kids love all that.And if we want more fans in our stadiums we have to get the kids in as they are the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I preferred the PL.As kelvinht said think the oppositions minds were more on the solid fence than their racing.With the safety barriers now in place i think the mindset of riders are a bit different to when we were in the PL and they can give it a bit more of a go.I preferred PL for the fact we had more variety in teams and we were racing every week at home.Plus the riders interacted with the fans so much more,which at the end of the day the kids love all that.And if we want more fans in our stadiums we have to get the kids in as they are the future. the PL is a very different league now they have riders missing R/R and you wouldn't get a home meeting every week either and 50% of the teams wouldn't be worth going to watch unless you like massive home wins which I guess some do . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Home meetings would be far more regular than they are now though. I think 50% is a bit excessive, of course every league has teams which struggle but the majority would come and put on a good show. Don't think you'd get many 60+ scores if the track was prepared to give everyone a chance to race, which it rarely was in our previous PL spell. And rider absences would be far fewer. Plus we'd get three local derbies. To be honest I think it's moot as I can't see us dropping back down anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Home meetings would be far more regular than they are now though. I think 50% is a bit excessive, of course every league has teams which struggle but the majority would come and put on a good show. Don't think you'd get many 60+ scores if the track was prepared to give everyone a chance to race, which it rarely was in our previous PL spell. And rider absences would be far fewer. Plus we'd get three local derbies. To be honest I think it's moot as I can't see us dropping back down anyway. personally though I think the club has bigger problems than which league we ride in - Rob seems to me to look unhappy in the pits or on track walk he's certainly lost his smile - Dale seems to be more hands on than Rob now - talking to long term fans I no most have concerns as to what has seems to have gone wrong at the club over the last 2 seasons - is Buster losing interest ? Fans seem unimportant lack of communication is at an all time low . Some say this is moaning well maybe it is but something needs to change at the club and why has this been allowed to happen in the first place . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Buster obviously hasn't lost interest or he wouldn't have put himself up as Chairperson of the BSPA. Perhaps he wants change and i guess he's trying to do something about it. He's admitted that it's a harder job than he expected when he was voted in though. I think the club is missing someone in a PR position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Buster obviously hasn't lost interest or he wouldn't have put himself up as Chairperson of the BSPA. Perhaps he wants change and i guess he's trying to do something about it. He's admitted that it's a harder job than he expected when he was voted in though. I think the club is missing someone in a PR position. we had a PR man and to be honest things were no better then - things have drifted and the finger is most definitely not on the pulse any more - I would just like to no why this has been allowed to happen if as you say if Buster hasn't lost interest . Surly even you must admit things are not right at the club or at least not as they used to be . Edited August 7, 2016 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 we had a PR man and to be honest things were no better then - things have drifted and the finger is most definitely not on the pulse any more - I would just like to no why this has been allowed to happen if as you say if Buster hasn't lost interest . Surly even you must admit things are not right at the club or at least not as they used to be . That's why I'm saying the club is missing a good PR person. Everyone currently has a job and probably can't put any more time in .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Modern day riders, management and the supporters are getting further apart than ever. The speedway family is no longer a close knit group, and club togetherness is at an all time low.. Meetings are now just another payday for riders... Team race suits are just real estate for riders sponsors, no longer worn with pride... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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