Speedball Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Looking a lot better when you have a top 4 of Iversen, Batchelor, Lambert and Mads. Not sure how meetings Niels will miss, but at least we have a chance of competing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Also now with Wilko moving to number 2 and Kai coming down that should help us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Looks Positive news on NKI in todays EDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Where u bin Semion! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Reepham.... How about you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Kai at reserve will be a big help! Although Wilko will struggle at no. 2. Calculation of averages needs looking at and maybe should exclude the reserves races as they give a false reading. Wonder how we'll play it now as it sounds like PUK will be around all season but pick and chose which matches he rides in. If its not a genuine reason (injury/fixture clash) will we get a facility - or use our no. 8 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 It doesn't read that he will be around all season but only ones that suit. Not sure how the Stars can plan around this unless they sign another rider to share with him - that wouldn't include Troy tho who I assume is part of a re-structering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 How can a no 8 go to reserve as he's there to replace a missing rider in the main body?. Only asking or is that another rule missed?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 How can a no 8 go to reserve as he's there to replace a missing rider in the main body?. Only asking or is that another rule missed?. He can't as far as I know. He can only cover 1-5 It's Jacobsen who rides at reserve now as he's the rider declared in their top 5 but I could be wrong. It's very confusing this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) How can a no 8 go to reserve as he's there to replace a missing rider in the main body?. Only asking or is that another rule missed?. No Huckenbeck is not eligible to ride at reserve. The rules are crystal clear. An absent Number 6 (who is NOT an EDR) can only be replaced by a Guest. The additional rider (AR) can replace any top 5 rider. The rules explicitly cover a non-EDR at reserve and explicitly do not permit an AR as cover. There is no ambiguity. Now whether the rules are ignored is another issue. Edited April 29, 2016 by 500cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrocks Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Where was it ever stated that Kai was number 8 and NBJ in the main team? I've only ever seen NBJ being referred to as a 'squad member' and that was after Kai was announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Where was it ever stated that Kai was number 8 and NBJ in the main team? I've only ever seen NBJ being referred to as a 'squad member' and that was after Kai was announced? http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/el16_issue_8.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Where was it ever stated that Kai was number 8 and NBJ in the main team? I've only ever seen NBJ being referred to as a 'squad member' and that was after Kai was announced? He has been listed as a Number 8 all season on each issue of the official BSPA 2016 Elite League Team Declarations. Jakobsen has been listed in the 1-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He can't as far as I know. He can only cover 1-5 It's Jacobsen who rides at reserve now as he's the rider declared in their top 5 but I could be wrong. It's very confusing this year Rules again not clear on this one.A number 8 can only cover a 1-5.As Jacobsen was declared in their 1-5 can he still replace him at reserve.I would have thought so because I am sure he cant cover Wilko who is now in the 1-5 but is an EDR.Rules as confusing as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 If Huckenbeck can go to reserve it won't be for long as he only has 2 away meetings to complete for an average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Now I'm not so sure !!! I thought ARR was the additional rider in the rules; but of course its the Additional Rider Replacement. So now I move from the certain camp that its not allowed, to not having a clue !!! Edited April 30, 2016 by 500cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He can't as far as I know. He can only cover 1-5 It's Jacobsen who rides at reserve now as he's the rider declared in their top 5 but I could be wrong. It's very confusing this year I think that once again the rule has been poorly drafted, but my conclusion is that Huckenbeck will be allowed to ride at reserve. Otherwise it would mean that he can only replace any top 5 rider, and that includes Wilkinson. I think there would be a lot of objections if a foreign number 8 regularly replaced a British EDR rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I think that once again the rule has been poorly drafted, but my conclusion is that Huckenbeck will be allowed to ride at reserve. Otherwise it would mean that he can only replace any top 5 rider, and that includes Wilkinson. I think there would be a lot of objections if a foreign number 8 regularly replaced a British EDR rider. EDRs can only be replaced from the EDR list or, additionally for Tier 1, a British PL rider without an EL average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) EDRs can only be replaced from the EDR list or, additionally for Tier 1, a British PL rider without an EL average. Are you sure. The rulebook also says ARR is the only replacement for a no 4 or 5. But that isn't correct because they can of course also be replaced with the number 8, as Huckenbeck has regularly done for Jakobsen. I.e. It appears that the rule about no 8s replacing any of the top five overrides the other rules about replacements for riders. Edited April 30, 2016 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I think the rules are a total mess on this one and they have not thought about what will happen if an EDR goes into the 1-5, is he still an ERD or is he a 1-5 rider? and obviously vice versa, if a 1-5 rider drops to reserve is he still a 1-5 rider? There is no definition of a 1-5 rider. It's often said the rules are badly written and I'm not sure they are. But in this case I don't even want to try and second guess what the BSPA will come up with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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