King's Lynn 2016

[Haza]

I want to know why our team still don't have there race suits ! I know when JC was at Lynn if the riders did not turn up with there race suits they would be fined. It's a joke that we are nearly in May and half the team do not still have a race suit. Aron summers signed for Leicester and had a race suit in under a week so no excuses saying they are not made yet

Summers had a race suit but it had Walasek on the back so I guess it wasn't Summers - I agree about the Stars though we look a right poorly turned out out fit - and with us being on Sky to tomorrow night it would be nice to see the team in the same race suits - your right it's nearly May no excuses now for not having them .

[lynnboy]

Well haza I'm going to be like you and watch it on tv. I have been going for over 40 years now but have lost interest I would rather go to Poland once a month and watch speedway than go watch the gate and go we have at Kingslynn nowadays, as much as I hate to say it think I may go to Peterborough a bit this year and leave Lynn out.

Edited April 26, 2016 by lynnboy

[stevehone]

the suits 'should' have arrived from Poland yesterday

[Haza]

the suits 'should' have arrived from Poland yesterday

hope they got some spare ones .

Well haza I'm going to be like you and watch it on to, I have been going for over 40 years now but have lost interest I would rather go to Poland once a month and watch speedway than go watch the gate and go we have at Kingslynn nowadays, as much as I hate to say it think I may go to Peterborough a bit this year and leave Lynn out.

I have lost interest but a lot of that comes from the club cus they have lost interest in speedway and the fans they need to build bridges show more interest in fans rather than take them for granted - Kings Lynn used to be the best race track in the country but as you say gate and go racing the track is poor to what it used to be . There is more atmosphere at a wake than there is at the Adrian Flux Arena even when the team win its poor . Really don't no what the answer is - I feel I've lost interest because the club seem to lack ambition and don't care about the paying customers.

[Steve Shovlar]

Get yourself down to Poole. Great crowd, good racing, a real buzz about thd place.

 

Plenty I would change at Poole as well to improve things but I am not the promoter.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[stevebrum]

Shame the track is still troublesome tho Steve.

[lynnboy]

I had a nice chat with JC over the weekend what a shame he is lost to British speedway, you hear some of the things that he says, he is a natural at promoting, he still has all the enthusiasm for speedway and it hurts him as much as us to see what's happening at Lynn. Such a shame that he's not at Lynn no more as it needs someone with his energy and vibe to start pulling the nails out of the coffin before its too late

[Starboy118]

hope they got some spare ones .

I have lost interest but a lot of that comes from the club cus they have lost interest in speedway and the fans they need to build bridges show more interest in fans rather than take them for granted - Kings Lynn used to be the best race track in the country but as you say gate and go racing the track is poor to what it used to be . There is more atmosphere at a wake than there is at the Adrian Flux Arena even when the team win its poor . Really don't no what the answer is - I feel I've lost interest because the club seem to lack ambition and don't care about the paying customers.

 

I am sorry to say that you are absolutely spot on.

I had a nice chat with JC over the weekend what a shame he is lost to British speedway, you hear some of the things that he says, he is a natural at promoting, he still has all the enthusiasm for speedway and it hurts him as much as us to see what's happening at Lynn. Such a shame that he's not at Lynn no more as it needs someone with his energy and vibe to start pulling the nails out of the coffin before its too late

Couldn't agree more

[semion]

Think many people feel the same about Lynn since JC departed. Would seem that everyone can see that apart from the people that matter.

[lynnboy]

It now shows that JC was actually running the show at Kingslynn, such a shame to see the club I love fall apart, JC started the Kingslynn study centre for young children to improve there studies and it was all revolved around speedway. maths, English etc, bringing new children to speedway which intakes bringing their parents, but as most of you know it's another thing that has been pushed aside.

Edited April 26, 2016 by lynnboy

[stevehone]

Really don't no what the answer is

 

my opinion, it's PL again

[Shale Searcher]

Re the Kings Lynn track. I used to rake and flag there in the mid eighties, and learned to slide with Ole Nygren there in the very early nineties, and I machine examined at last season's World Cup and the track material seems so drastically different to what it used to be...?

It seemed to be a totally different colour, more like farmland soil, with added small stone chippings, also it seemed to contain small bits of straw and other unidentifiable debris..

It also seems to be flatter than I remember, much shallower banking. Can anyone confirm exactly what material is used on track there now? It just didn't feel or mould in the hand like Breedon shale or other brand of shale..?

[Haza]

my opinion, it's PL again

don't agree - if Lynn went PL I doubt I'd go at all - and how does that change the way the club is run ?

[lynnboy]

Re the Kings Lynn track. I used to rake and flag there in the mid eighties, and learned to slide with Ole Nygren there in the very early nineties, and I machine examined at last season's World Cup and the track material seems so drastically different to what it used to be...?

It seemed to be a totally different colour, more like farmland soil, with added small stone chippings, also it seemed to contain small bits of straw and other unidentifiable debris..

It also seems to be flatter than I remember, much shallower banking. Can anyone confirm exactly what material is used on track there now? It just didn't feel or mould in the hand like Breedon shale or other brand of shale..?

From what I am told the shale now has more clay content and that it is better for stock cars as it can be tyre packed better which allows the rain to run off it better so there is less chance of a rain off at bangers/stock cars, the old shale would adsorbe the water and make it more sloppy which would make it harder to run stock cars/bangers if it rained. The track for speedway after a few heats then goes flat and shines which is why there is no grip to pass. And since it has so much clay this is why you don't see them put the spikes in deep anymore and rip it up. It is suppose to be a more universal shale for stock cars and speedway. What you have to remember the stock cars make buster more money than the speedway so he has to keep them happy. Don't know if this is 100% true but it's what I have been told.

Edited April 27, 2016 by lynnboy

[g13webb]

I never thought I would ever say this, but my desire to go to watch speedway has completely gone. For 50 yrs I have followed the up and downs of the Kings Lynn Stars always feeling that illusive title was just a season away. But nowadays I feel so distant from the club that always put principals before success. Over the past few months the club has all but forgotten about the fans, and everything revolves around cost cutting. The fans now are treated like mushrooms and are expected to come just because there's a match on.. Not Me.

Yes I could go elsewhere to watch, but in all honesty I've had a gut full of the BSPA and their Pathetic rules. Their favouritism towards certain promoters has destroyed everything that was good about league racing. And them stupid FTR Reserves idea is just there to be manipulated.

Anybody with any sense, can see what is happening to this once loved sport, yet nobody is man enough to do anything about it.

 

I wonder how many more feels Like I do....

[Daniel Smith]

From what I am told the shale now has more clay content and that it is better for stock cars as it can be tyre packed better which allows the rain to run off it better so there is less chance of a rain off at bangers/stock cars, the old shale would adsorbe the water and make it more sloppy which would make it harder to run stock cars/bangers. The track for speedway after a few heats then goes flat and shines which is why there is no grip to pass. And since it has so much clay this is why you don't see them put the spikes in deep anymore and rip it up. It is suppose to be a more universal shale for stock cars and speedway. What you have to remember the stock cars make buster more money than the speedway so he has to keep them happy. Don't know if this is 100% true but it's what I have been told.

 

Spot on, also reference to the banking. This was also lost when the outside perimeter of the track was brought in and originally wire catch fenced for the stock cars

[semion]

I never thought I would ever say this, but my desire to go to watch speedway has completely gone. For 50 yrs I have followed the up and downs of the Kings Lynn Stars always feeling that illusive title was just a season away. But nowadays I feel so distant from the club that always put principals before success. Over the past few months the club has all but forgotten about the fans, and everything revolves around cost cutting. The fans now are treated like mushrooms and are expected to come just because there's a match on.. Not Me.

Yes I could go elsewhere to watch, but in all honesty I've had a gut full of the BSPA and their Pathetic rules. Their favouritism towards certain promoters has destroyed everything that was good about league racing. And them stupid FTR Reserves idea is just there to be manipulated.

Anybody with any sense, can see what is happening to this once loved sport, yet nobody is man enough to do anything about it.

 

I wonder how many more feels Like I do....

 

Welcome over to the Dark side GRW. I use to wonder how a stalwart fan like Star Lady, who know travelled all over the country to watch her team, suddenly just stopped going. It took me a while, but I too finally woke up and smelt the coffee.

 

The real frustrating thing is The Sport is full of potential yet year after year we see it knocked down another peg. Sad really that those who can do something about the decline, either do not want to, or do not have the capabilities to turn it round.

 

My one last hope is Buster Chapman. HIs real input should be felt next season. Can he turn it around ? Judging on what he has allowed to happen at Saddlebow then I have grave doubts. Now if he could bite the bullet and bring his son back into the fray and use him to help, then maybe...just maybe. After all JC was like a breath of fresh air when was elected onto the BSPA Committee and was in charge of all the shared events. He certainly made people sit up and take notice. If he is not available, then it needs someone of that Ilk to come in and come in PDQ.

[Star Lady]

 

Welcome over to the Dark side GRW. I use to wonder how a stalwart fan like Star Lady, who know travelled all over the country to watch her team, suddenly just stopped going. It took me a while, but I too finally woke up and smelt the coffee.

 

The real frustrating thing is The Sport is full of potential yet year after year we see it knocked down another peg. Sad really that those who can do something about the decline, either do not want to, or do not have the capabilities to turn it round.

 

My one last hope is Buster Chapman. HIs real input should be felt next season. Can he turn it around ? Judging on what he has allowed to happen at Saddlebow then I have grave doubts. Now if he could bite the bullet and bring his son back into the fray and use him to help, then maybe...just maybe. After all JC was like a breath of fresh air when was elected onto the BSPA Committee and was in charge of all the shared events. He certainly made people sit up and take notice. If he is not available, then it needs someone of that Ilk to come in and come in PDQ.

 

 

I thought for a long while it was me semion but when I see the likes of you and GRW saying what I've been thinking for a while, I came to the conclusion it's the sport and/or the way it's run.

 

It will take more than Buster to turn it round, it's gone too far IMHO.

 

My solution, and it will annoy the heck out of some is ban GP riders (why should the whole UK sport bow down to 16 people), bring in grading instead of averages and get the grading correct from the start, Squad systems along the lines of 1 EL club is linked to 2 PL clubs and 1/2 NL clubs and only riders from those linked clubs can be used in any combination up to the maximum grading allowed. That should equalise teams more which might ensure more competitive meetings.

 

Chuck the rule book and all the supplementary regs out the window, better still have a bonfire on the NA terraces to at least keep some fans warm so they finally have a use.

 

Enforce bonus point payment to encourage team riding.

 

As to getting any atmosphere, that will never happen until the terraces are at least half full, to do that you have to improve the product.

 

oops I've just woken up

 

As for Lynn itself, to be honest I just can't be bothered anymore. I've served my time. As you say I travelled all over the country but that was at a time when the management and more importantly riders actually appreciated it and showed us they did. If they can't be arsed nowadays to acknowledge the fans why they heck should the fans bother. Before Trees comes back and say they care I suggest she counts up the number of tweets they make about Poland and the number they make about Lynn

 

I think even Jonathan would be hard pressed to turn things around, and would need 3/4/5 years to get back to anything like the good old days and it would need a massive financial commitment to implement things until the crowds increase and I just don't think there is the will to commit (understandably).

 

Funnily enough we must all still care a fair bit or we wouldn't spend time on here trying to suggest ways to improve things or we could all just be sad individuals with nothing better to do

[semion]

That's the thing SL, we do care because the product has something about it, we have all experienced it, but somewhere along the line it all went wrong and maybe we crave having that back again, and hope that one day it might return.

 

I hang on to the tiny hope that someone will be able to turn it around before the Undertakers arrive to carry it off.

[Daniel Smith]

Some of the main poster's concerning King's Lynn have and / or are getting close to chucking the towel in on the club, possibly the sport as a whole.

 

What is it we're missing?

 

For me:-

 

1. Lack of competitive racing
2. Track far to slick
3. Rider interaction (meet the fans at the end of the meeting isn't enough) during a meeting i.e. a genuine showing of passion. Always lifts the atmosphere
4. Need the noise back, in the PL it could be so noisy some away fans branded it the mini Cardiff

Those 4 thing's would make a huge difference to me but it does seem as though the club actually couldn't give a sh!+ if we were there or not. Is the sponsorship packages that good these days to not need the supporters? Genuine question........

 

The scoreline doesn't overly matter, some of the PL 60-30's delivered great racing. Now all the racing is within the 1st lap, Even Iversen or Lambert, genuine racers can't get close against some proper garbage riders