Crazy robin Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:10 PM, Steve0 said: Can't see how Howarth is at reserve with an EL average from last season??? He has a lower Premier league average than others who are in the draft & as its down to those averages I can't see a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) On 11/3/2015 at 9:10 PM, Steve0 said: Can't see how Howarth is at reserve with an EL average from last season???He didn't even have a full season 14 league matches (12 with Swindon, 2 with Cov). I'm guessing also that he isn't to be included in any starting team 1-5 line up also. Maybe if Swindon had stood by him and he stayed in a starting line up he maybe well have not been included. Guess it's Swindons fault! Edited November 3, 2015 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:11 PM, Crazy robin said: He has a lower Premier league average than others who are in the draft & as its down to those averages I can't see a problem. He has a 5.5+ EL average!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:25 PM, Steve0 said: He has a 5.5+ EL average!! Not relevant if he's a reserve as its down to Premier League averages. I guess if he was in the top 5 he'd maintain his Elite league average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:36 PM, Crazy robin said: Not relevant if he's a reserve as its down to Premier League averages. I guess if he was in the top 5 he'd maintain his Elite league average. But it IS relevant!! If he has a current EL average then that's what should be used! More cr@p from the BSPA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:39 PM, Steve0 said: But it IS relevant!! If he has a current EL average then that's what should be used! More cr@p from the BSPA! No more crap than using Premier league averages for the rest though. I assume others like Richie Worrall will also come back on a non elite league average even though they have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:41 PM, Crazy robin said: No more crap than using Premier league averages for the rest though. I assume others like Richie Worrall will also come back on a non elite league average even though they have one. Richie I can understand as he didn't ride EL last season - Howarth did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:39 PM, Steve0 said: But it IS relevant!! If he has a current EL average then that's what should be used! More cr@p from the BSPA! The same cr@p that's kept top EL draft rider Kyle Newman way down the pecking order . Rules can only be fair if they apply to ALL teams and riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:57 PM, stevebrum said: The same cr@p that's kept top EL draft rider Kyle Newman way down the pecking order . Rules can only be fair if they apply to ALL teams and riders. its always utter cr@p using PL averages for EL wat a cop out , newman has the highest EL average of the draft riders, yet stays at reserve! i bet come play off brady kurtz goes through a bad time to keep his average down to enable him to be a reserve and have 7 rides thereby taking newmans rides away frm him is this wat the draft was for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't mind Howarth being a reserve but his EL average should be used for team building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) On 11/3/2015 at 10:09 PM, woz01 said: I don't mind Howarth being a reserve but his EL average should be used for team building. there is no way that a 5.5+ rider should be at reserve in this watered down league. Looks like BSPA back scratching to me and it stinks! Edited November 7, 2015 by Steve0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 10:13 PM, Steve0 said: there is no way that a 5.5+ rider should be at reserve in this watered down league. Looks like BSA back scratching to me and it stinks! But if he is it gives his side less points to play with. Its not like he doesn't have an average and will stick at reserve all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 10:30 PM, woz01 said: But if he is it gives his side less points to play with. Its not like he doesn't have an average and will stick at reserve all year. Absolutely, after his first four meetings he could end up as Wolves no'1 on a 10 average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 9:11 PM, Crazy robin said: He has a lower Premier league average than others who are in the draft & as its down to those averages I can't see a problem. Surely he must come in on his EL average of 5.53. The converted PL calculation was brought in for last years fast track rides who's averages were inflated by the race format for reserves. Howarth wasn't a reserve and attained a genuine EL average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Could it be because there are doubts whether some teams could field a side close enough to the points limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Must admit it seems odd but if it helps the Brits then that's a good thing. For once we get something out of it as Cook is over a point less when using his PL average so I'll take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 10:19 PM, Pirate Oliver said: How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Newman reserve? How the hell is Newman reserve? How the hell is Newman reserve?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 11:19 PM, stevebrum said: How the hell is Newman reserve? How the hell is Newman reserve? How the hell is Newman reserve?? Because the sport is an absolute joke and run appallingly. On 11/3/2015 at 10:19 PM, Pirate Oliver said: How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? How the hell is Howarth at reserve ? I refer the gentleman to my answer above! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 On 11/3/2015 at 10:45 PM, Pirate Baz said: Surely he must come in on his EL average of 5.53. The converted PL calculation was brought in for last years fast track rides who's averages were inflated by the race format for reserves. Howarth wasn't a reserve and attained a genuine EL average. Stunning hypocricy. Every 2nd string also has am inflated average.Should have been a converted el average for all riders. And should be three Brits per team minimum. Looks like they are making sure all the best Brits have a team place and that is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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