robert72 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Whoever finishes bottom deserves what they get. Thems the breaks. well you were so sure it would be Leicester with the wooden spoon until they beat you again at monmore lol This meeting isn't worth more than £10 so as a neutral will give it a miss at £21 including programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Don't Cov have to avoid winning by more than six to ensure Wolves finish bottom? Surely that's important. Oh how I'll laugh if we send out our weakest pairing in heat 15 and Lakeside get a 5-1 and the meeting ends 48-42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 No Josh. Stuck on m6 I've heard barker as legged it home to get his bikes and guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Oh how I'll laugh if we send out our weakest pairing in heat 15 and Lakeside get a 5-1 and the meeting ends 48-42 Its going to happen right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 As a neutral don't care in the slightest what the result of this match is. I think you are taking my comment a little too seriously Just an odd comment to make from a neutral perspective IMHO. Still each to their own. well you were so sure it would be Leicester with the wooden spoon until they beat you again at monmore lol It was the first time they won at Monmore. Would have said it didn't make much difference who beat who other than some warped bragging rights, however the win on Monday most certainly counted. Both have been tripe this season so I hardly think it's anything to be excited about. In saying that with Leicester adrift all last season and just one week off bottom all this season maybe Leicester feel they have achieved something for a change. Oh how I'll laugh if we send out our weakest pairing in heat 15 and Lakeside get a 5-1 and the meeting ends 48-42 We've laughed at your lot in the basement before now so I can see the appeal. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Steve, it's not so much Wolves finishing bottom it your continual laughing and mocking over the years of people's predictions and your claims they're stupid as anything can happen. And then this years your instance that Leicester were the worst team in the league - yet they were better than your sorry shower than until about 2 months ago you thought could still beat Swindon! Still, as you've said yourself, anything can happen.... The fun with predictions is when you're right you can Lord it over everyone else with tales of how great you are. But when you're wrong expect some leg pulling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Steve, it's not so much Wolves finishing bottom it your continual laughing and mocking over the years of people's predictions and your claims they're stupid as anything can happen. And then this years your instance that Leicester were the worst team in the league - yet they were better than your sorry shower than until about 2 months ago you thought could still beat Swindon! Still, as you've said yourself, anything can happen.... The fun with predictions is when you're right you can Lord it over everyone else with tales of how great you are. But when you're wrong expect some leg pulling I expect to be ribbed when wrong and happy to gloat when right. Seems fine with me!Nobody expected Leicester to win there last 2 away matches and good on them for doing so, they have proved me wrong and I'm prepared for the ribbing! However the reality remains they finished above us only by the slimest of points difference margins. It provides some comfort. Edit - well done to the Bees for the win tonight! Edited September 9, 2015 by stevebrum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I expect to be ribbed when wrong and happy to gloat when right. Seems fine with me! Nobody expected Leicester to win there last 2 away matches and good on them for doing so, they have proved me wrong and I'm prepared for the ribbing! However the reality remains they finished above us only by the slimest of points difference margins. It provides some comfort. Edit - well done to the Bees for the win tonight! however slim the points difference Leicester were better than wolves this season Bees v Poole next up let's hope it's better than the last farce Edited September 9, 2015 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 however slim the points difference Leicester were better than wolves this season Bees v Poole next up let's hope it's better than the last farce Technically Wolves were higher than Leicester for 95% of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Good win for the bees. It was mentioned they were trying some things on the bikes tonight. Seemed to work for King. Good night for Sarjeant who's hating was brilliant tonight & looked to have a bit more confidence. It was good to see AJ get a very warm welcome. Good effort from both teams. I think Lakeside have been very unlucky with their injuries at reserve this year which is why they finished bottom. Hoping we see them at the tapes next year. This win means Coventry finish 2nd in the table. Edited September 10, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Some great racing tonight; Bomber was superb, but hope he gates better on Monday. Thought we might keep it within 6pts, but, as usual, faded after the interval. Can't fault any of the riders for effort though, Bees just had the edge & the final score flattered them Best I've seen the track for quite a while, tempted to come again & see the Raiders on Friday instead of Somerset v Rockets You need to thank the Hammers stevebrum, we have saved your blushes by being officially worse than you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 You need to thank the Hammers stevebrum, we have saved your blushes by being officially worse than you Thanks! In truth us, Hammers and Leicester have been pants this season so anyone of us deserved that accolade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks! In truth us, Hammers and Leicester have been pants this season so anyone of us deserved that accolade. In truth the margin between the bottom three teams is so slim that all one can reasonably say is that Wolves, Lakeside and Leicester were equally bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) if you analyse the difference in performance between the 1-5's and the EDR reserves the only team genuinely pants are Wolves.. Lakeside and Leicester suffered by losing their top tier reserves at a relatively early stage of the season and not being able to get an adequate replacement because of the fast track shambles. If you look at the scores last night Coventry won by 14 points, but Lakesides 1-5 only fell short by 6 points against Cov's 1-5 which is not bad by any standards for an away team, and that was with Ben Barker in at short notice and understandably only scoring 1 point. If they Josh Grajonek had turned up it would likely have been better . That is a pattern of many matches this season with the difference in scores being mainly at reserve, especially with Lakeside. If it had not been for the ffast track it would probably have been a much closer season all round, especially amongst the middle order teams. Take Poole and Swindon out of the equation and the combines averages of the 1-5's look like this :- Belle Vue 32.56 Lakeside 32.45 Coventry32.43 Kings Lynn 32.00 Leicester 31.40 Wolves 29.56 So in terms of averages the lakeside 1-5 have done a reasonable job. roughly comparable to Belle Vue and Coventry. Leicester have struggled a bit but have been uniquely unlucky with riders walking out and to a lesser extent with injuries. Certainly it was a devastating blow to lose Josh Auty. Certainly I think we could say it would have been a more interesting season if the fast track had been better organised and there is too great a gap between the best and the worst of the fast track riders, when you consider that some EDR riders ride at N01 in their PL clubs and others don't even have a reserve berth in the PL. But whichever way you break it down Wolves have got worse and worse as the season went on. Losing Lewis Blackbird to injury didn't help but for the 1-5 to be nearly 2 points adrift from Leicester, with the problems Leicester has had, and nearly 3 points down on the others is poor indeed.. One has to ask whether there is something wrtong with the way the club is being run. Edited September 10, 2015 by Daytripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Good win for the bees. It was mentioned they were trying some things on the bikes tonight. Seemed to work for King. Good night for Sarjeant who's hating was brilliant tonight & looked to have a bit more confidence. This win means Coventry finish 2nd in the table. As many have said this season, Sarjeant needs to calm down a lot if he is so brilliant at hating!! Well done on 2nd place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 At no point during 2015 did the lions field the declared 1-7 due to injury's or riders "retiring" from british speedway if you analyse the difference in performance between the 1-5's and the EDR reserves the only team genuinely pants are Wolves.. Lakeside and Leicester suffered by losing their top tier reserves at a relatively early stage of the season and not being able to get an adequate replacement because of the fast track shambles. If you look at the scores last night Coventry won by 14 points, but Lakesides 1-5 only fell short by 6 points against Cov's 1-5 which is not bad by any standards for an away team, and that was with Ben Barker in at short notice and understandably only scoring 1 point. If they Josh Grajonek had turned up it would likely have been better . That is a pattern of many matches this season with the difference in scores being mainly at reserve, especially with Lakeside. If it had not been for the ffast track it would probably have been a much closer season all round, especially amongst the middle order teams. Take Poole and Swindon out of the equation and the combines averages of the 1-5's look like this :- Belle Vue 32.56 Lakeside 32.45 Coventry32.43 Kings Lynn 32.00 Leicester 31.40 Wolves 29.56 So in terms of averages the lakeside 1-5 have done a reasonable job. roughly comparable to Belle Vue and Coventry. Leicester have struggled a bit but have been uniquely unlucky with riders walking out and to a lesser extent with injuries. Certainly it was a devastating blow to lose Josh Auty. Certainly I think we could say it would have been a more interesting season if the fast track had been better organised and there is too great a gap between the best and the worst of the fast track riders, when you consider that some EDR riders ride at N01 in their PL clubs and others don't even have a reserve berth in the PL. But whichever way you break it down Wolves have got worse and worse as the season went on. Losing Lewis Blackbird to injury didn't help but for the 1-5 to be nearly 2 points adrift from Leicester, with the problems Leicester has had, and nearly 3 points down on the others is poor indeed.. One has to ask whether there is something wrtong with the way the club is being run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 At no point during 2015 did the lions field the declared 1-7 due to injury's or riders "retiring" from british speedway Just finishing off my analysis of EL guests for 2015, and one thing that stands out is that Leicester tracked at least one guest in every match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Just finishing off my analysis of EL guests for 2015, and one thing that stands out is that Leicester tracked at least one guest in every match! 61 in total, with 4 at Coventry in June! 61M 278R 348Pts 41B Ave 4.94/5.60 ATB Dave Edited September 10, 2015 by Gambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Just finishing off my analysis of EL guests for 2015, and one thing that stands out is that Leicester tracked at least one guest in every match!what a shocking statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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