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Newcastle V Edinburgh Sunday 13th September 2017 2nd Leg Plknock-out Cup


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Er...aren't we rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic, gentlemen?

 

On the basis that Sunday will very probably be the last meeting of the season, I have some important questions:

 

1. What happened to the George English Snr Memorial Trophy? It was always a good way to bring the curtain down;

 

2. Why isn't there a riders v. mechanics tug of war on the centre green?

 

3. Will the Key Draw ever be back?

 

Seriously...I know money is very short, but on the basis they all bring decent travelling support, next season how about a Northern 4TT with Berwick, Glasgow, Workington and ourselves?

Never mind a northern 4TT should bring back the proper 4TT back next season, I used to love going to the four/five tracks on different nights (usually consecutive)

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Question: Will Tero be back on Sunday. The team needs the little guy.

 

As I have said all season long, Newcastle are a team of second strings, we do not have a proper heatleader. Steve is close but still not in the heatleader mold.

Now Edinburgh have 3 heatleaders Craig Cook, Sam Masters and Kevin Wolbert. Much as I would love us to win big enough to go through to the cup. I think the Monarchs heatleaders will stop us and that is the end of the season despite the rearranged Rye House match

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Question: Will Tero be back on Sunday. The team needs the little guy.

 

As I have said all season long, Newcastle are a team of second strings, we do not have a proper heatleader. Steve is close but still not in the heatleader mold.

Now Edinburgh have 3 heatleaders Craig Cook, Sam Masters and Kevin Wolbert. Much as I would love us to win big enough to go through to the cup. I think the Monarchs heatleaders will stop us and that is the end of the season despite the rearranged Rye House match

John. How come you rate Wolbert a heat leader on 8.70, but don't rate Steve who is on 8.76. Steve got his average at the front end of the team, unlike Wolbert who is 3 or 4 in the Monarch's team. Nowt like supporting the team ?

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John. How come you rate Wolbert a heat leader on 8.70, but don't rate Steve who is on 8.76. Steve got his average at the front end of the team, unlike Wolbert who is 3 or 4 in the Monarch's team. Nowt like supporting the team ?

Well spotted Dave. :t::approve:

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John. How come you rate Wolbert a heat leader on 8.70, but don't rate Steve who is on 8.76. Steve got his average at the front end of the team, unlike Wolbert who is 3 or 4 in the Monarch's team. Nowt like supporting the team ?

is that his ave. or his enhanced ave. Dave ???,,, but still, only 6 no. 1's with a higher ave. ;)

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John. How come you rate Wolbert a heat leader on 8.70, but don't rate Steve who is on 8.76. Steve got his average at the front end of the team, unlike Wolbert who is 3 or 4 in the Monarch's team. Nowt like supporting the team ?

steves 8.34.... Wolbert 8.29

 

Id have Steve anyday out of the 2.

 

Wolbert will prob go elsewhere next year and drop his average to go back to the monarchs the year after :)

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is that his ave. or his enhanced ave. Dave ???,,, but still, only 6 no. 1's with a higher ave. ;)

That's his enhanced average as Arson has pointed out. Point still valid tho, as Steve is still above Wolbert and got it from being at the front against higher opposition.

 

Good point. :P

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That's his enhanced average as Arson has pointed out. Point still valid tho, as Steve is still above Wolbert and got it from being at the front against higher opposition.

 

Good point. :P

Steve has been great, could do with being stronger away from home at some places,,, but overall has done the 'bizz',,,

would love to see him back next year, and for many years, along with 'The Evil Twin' if that was at all possible and, the pairs to be held on our 'hallowed shale' ;)

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I've been very critical often concerning the team set up from day one and the lack of changes throughout - and still am very much so!, but don't think anyone can say that SW has not had a fine season and exceeded everyone's expectations especially mine. Mastered the BP track which is a massive credit to him as he struggled badly with it in the past.

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Question: Will Tero be back on Sunday. The team needs the little guy.

 

As I have said all season long, Newcastle are a team of second strings, we do not have a proper heatleader. Steve is close but still not in the heatleader mold.

Now Edinburgh have 3 heatleaders Craig Cook, Sam Masters and Kevin Wolbert. Much as I would love us to win big enough to go through to the cup. I think the Monarchs heatleaders will stop us and that is the end of the season despite the rearranged Rye House match

 

Teams for Sunday:

 

http://www.newcastlediamonds.co/news/article.asp?id=100460

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I think the Monarchs have too much top end strength for us and they always seem to perform at Brough so this may come down to the reserves. Will be an interesting match as always good to watch the Cookie Monster around Brough and he had a couple of great battles with Richie a few years back. Elbows at the ready!!! :t:

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I have been "guilty" of calling the lads a "Team of Second Strings" well I will change that as Steve Worrall has emerged as a heat leader and I hope he and the evil twin will be Diamonds together again in 2016. Fingers crossed that will happen.

 

The Newcastle website names Sundays Teams as follows:

 

Newcastle Sapphire Engineering Diamonds

1. Steve Worrall 8.34
2. Christian Henry 4.97 r/r (back injury)
3. Richie Worrall 7.11 guest for Lewis Kerr (7.38 enhanced) Speedway injury.
4. Anton Rosen 5.52
5. Ludvig Lindgren © 7.27
6. Simon Nielsen 4.17
7. Tero Aarnio 4.53

Edinburgh Monarchs

1. Craig Cook captain 10.02
2. Justin Sedgmen 8.12
3. Kevin Wolbert 8.29
4. Erik Riss 5.10
5. Sam Masters 9.13
6. Max Clegg 3.26
7. Rob Branford 3.14

 

Now the Monarchs are a great team, Heat leaders Err ....(Cook, Wolbert and Masters) trying not to use terms like second strings/heat leaders will score heavily at Brough and reserve Branford impressed me last time he rode at here so the diamonds need a minor miracle to pull back so many points but you never know do you. Gotta be sensible and say the Monarchs will progress but maybe the Diamonds will give them a hard time!

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Yes, it is going to be tough to beat the Monarchs on their present form, but we are a much changed septet than our league position suggests. I think we will win, but it will take a 'real' Herculian effort from all the team to get the aggregate in our favour. Not your average Monarch Herculian effort of cyclone and Al Stewart proportions, but a real Diamonds Herculian effort that we have done at least 3 times already at home with Glasgow X2 and Sheffield.

Pleased to see Aarnio and Evil twin in our corner for this one, as we will need their quality if they perform to normal. Teo and Simon I would expect to dominate Clegg and Brandford at reserve, whilst Richie along with Ludde and Steve will want to lower both Cookies and Grins colours. Dangerman for me is Sedgman, who once couldn't ride our place, but you can see from his healer leaders average he must have mastered a lot of tracks to show the improvement he has made.

 

Looks like a great contest, regardless of who wins on aggregate. Weather is good for tomorrow, and todays rain will certainly made our track heavy. Bring it on. :P

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Yes, it is going to be tough to beat the Monarchs on their present form, but we are a much changed septet than our league position suggests. I think we will win, but it will take a 'real' Herculian effort from all the team to get the aggregate in our favour. Not your average Monarch Herculian effort of cyclone and Al Stewart proportions, but a real Diamonds Herculian effort that we have done at least 3 times already at home with Glasgow X2 and Sheffield.

Pleased to see Aarnio and Evil twin in our corner for this one, as we will need their quality if they perform to normal. Teo and Simon I would expect to dominate Clegg and Brandford at reserve, whilst Richie along with Ludde and Steve will want to lower both Cookies and Grins colours. Dangerman for me is Sedgman, who once couldn't ride our place, but you can see from his healer leaders average he must have mastered a lot of tracks to show the improvement he has made.

 

Looks like a great contest, regardless of who wins on aggregate. Weather is good for tomorrow, and todays rain will certainly made our track heavy. Bring it on. :P

I'm hoping that it will be a good injury free Meeting and that the 'Diamonds' can run in a thumping win.

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steves 8.34.... Wolbert 8.29

 

Id have Steve anyday out of the 2.

 

Wolbert will prob go elsewhere next year and drop his average to go back to the monarchs the year after :)

Wolberts average for 2015 is over 9.00 just that his proper average still takes into account some of his 2014 rides.

 

No one will be as so stupid to take him on that average knowing what passed in 2014, not even Edinburgh i suspect unless one of the other top 4 move on.

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