Arson fire Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Sounds like Somerset have their eyes on young Zach.... Not like them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 There are rules in all divisions about using someone else's registered riders. If one of these riders had been hurt, the same people saying it is pathetic, would be the first to condemn the situation and complain about not following rules, and therefore knock the sport. Instead the rule infringement is correctly reported and the usual suspects say that is pathetic. Giv ya heeds a shake will you. Is there any reason why the riders could not have ridden and Somerset have been reported? It makes no sense at all. I agree rules are rules but to stop the lads from riding simply sounds vindictive. I thought British promoters were supposed to be encouraging young British riders, it's no wonder Tai gets so angry at the situation. As for injury they could get run over by a bus whether in Birmingham or Weston Super Mare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Why would somerset want Birmingham riders to ride in a friendly?? Think about it... Good onya Brum!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Why would somerset want Birmingham riders to ride in a friendly?? Think about it... Good onya Brum!! Quite agree. Brum are looking after the interested of THEIR supporters in trying to field their strongest team to hopefully bring success/trophies to the club. Good on them for thinking of the fans. As the Somerset meeting was a friendly, there are stacks of rider who could ride in their place. Is there any reason why the riders could not have ridden and Somerset have been reported? It makes no sense at all. I agree rules are rules but to stop the lads from riding simply sounds vindictive. I thought British promoters were supposed to be encouraging young British riders, it's no wonder Tai gets so angry at the situation. As for injury they could get run over by a bus whether in Birmingham or Weston Super Mare. You must be struggling, by bring Tai into it. Irrelevant fact. Much more chance of them getting injured on a speedway bike, but you already know that. Edited September 4, 2015 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 You still haven't answered my question. Could Birmingham have reported Somerset (quite correctly) and still allowed the lads to ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Really is a shame as the lads wanted to ride and it wasn't doing Birmingham any harm esp when the meeting was a friendly with a club who you would think Birmingham would have some sympathy for after how they almost didn't come to the track themselves. Whilst NL league can be good to watch, it is really a starting point. the riders need more opportunities to race in the bigger leagues to help them develop more and gain experience. To report Somerset to the BSPA over something like this is petty, although Somerset should really have gone through the correct procedures to book them. Edited September 5, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Dont see what Birmingham did wrong, all the Somerset promotion had to do was spend two minutes on the phone to the Birmingham promotion asking to a couple of their riders. Bit over the top from Birmingham reporting Somerset to the BSPA, makes them look like the school grass, but at the end of it all Birmingham will look after the best interests of Birmingham and if that means stopping Zach & Sam from riding in last nights meeting then so be it, even though IMO you would've thought there was a compromise out there somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Makes you wonder just how much is going on behind closed doors if the dirty linen is being washed in public with that statement. "Tip of iceberg theory" me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Looks like BWD and Matt Bates took their places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Maybe happens quite often this problem.There was another case just this week of a rider taking a booking or two for open meetings and having to pull out .I became suspicious of the press release and mentioned so on the internet and got a message that his club wouldn't release him before an important meeting.Now the thing is there are rules and all riders sign up for clubs with often very good rewards.People are always quick to point out when rules are being broken.And scb is one of the main posters in this area So it isn't very credible when someone stands up for the rules and still gets flack. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Well quite honestly if that's the reason it's pathetic and if you support it as a reason......best I stop there If you really think that wanting to a) keep your star riders fit before the most important match of the season, nay in our recent history and expecting the rules to be followed is not a good reason then I despair. Somerset are in the wrong but Birmingham reaction has punished two riders and 100s of fans. As I said, pathetic! You have no idea if the riders have been informed and had an input into the decision, which is what I suspect has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Surely the only thing that really matters is two young British riders being denied an opportunity to ride and gain experience (and possibly earn a few quid). Everything else is secondary but then that sums up the attitude of the authorities ,British riders are secondary every time Above everything else the rules should be obeyed by ALL teams , having been on the wrong end of 1 rule for one and 1 rule for another I can see why he has reported Somerset , If Somerset want to use the assets of a championship challenging National league team for a meaningless fixture filler , they should ask permission of that team , . Is there any reason why the riders could not have ridden and Somerset have been reported? It makes no sense at all. I agree rules are rules but to stop the lads from riding simply sounds vindictive. I thought British promoters were supposed to be encouraging young British riders, it's no wonder Tai gets so angry at the situation. As for injury they could get run over by a bus whether in Birmingham or Weston Super Mare. Yes it's because the SCB have shown that they cannot be trusted to take a realisitc view of the situation and act in a reasonable manner , I quote you what happens when you take the official protest routes by pointing out the Coventry vs Poole Sky Tv farce , would anyone in their right minds expect to see fair play after that ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Have to say that I really dislike Graham Drury but in this case think the wrong person is getting the stick. The rule is there for good reason and it doesn't take a lot of effort to ask permission, Somerset must have been mad not to considering it was Drury's riders they wanted to use. Riders might be self employed but like most small companies they have to keep their main customers happy and I can also understand Birmingham not wanting them riding in friendlies at the moment. One meeting at this stage of the season isn't going to make a world of difference to their progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 unless i'm mistaken this is not so far away from a few years back when the first the newport management knew of kyle newman signing for birmingham was a photo of him in the s/star warring a brummies bib, either short memories or they learnt by the experience . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 So has it always been the case that riders can only accept a guest booking if a club goes to their club first and not direct to the rider ?....I'm sure that wasn't always the case and it was down to riders themselves to accept bookings at home and abroad...they are self employed after all... Even so this sounds a bit petty and if I were one of the riders I certainly wouldn't be happy about the restriction of earnings and it surely would damage their relationship with Birmingham long term which seems crazy of a small point of principle....using riders as pawns in a dispute is never clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 ... Even so this sounds a bit petty and if I were one of the riders I certainly wouldn't be happy about the restriction of earnings and it surely would damage their relationship with Birmingham long term which seems crazy of a small point of principle....using riders as pawns in a dispute is never clever Zach has a career path that will take him to bigger and better things sooner rather than later. Wouldn't surprise me to see him a full time Somerset Rebel next year. Will that be an ultimate irony? Once a few deep breaths have been had this will all die down to become a storm in a tea cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Storm in a teacup maybe, but not until it's hit 50 posts plus on the BSF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Pure Brum craziness! Surely it would have been a benefit to them to have two of their riders that little bit sharper before their oh so important match. What if Zach had wanted to ride a grasstrack the day before an important meeting would Brum have allowed that? Also there are plenty of NL riders that pop up in the MDL throughout the season do the MDL teams have to approach the clubs through the proper channels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Pure Brum craziness! Surely it would have been a benefit to them to have two of their riders that little bit sharper before their oh so important match. What if Zach had wanted to ride a grasstrack the day before an important meeting would Brum have allowed that? Also there are plenty of NL riders that pop up in the MDL throughout the season do the MDL teams have to approach the clubs through the proper channels? Sharper or one/both injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 People seem to have got the idea that it was about the riding whereas I thought Drury's statement was about the breach of protocol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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