flagrag Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 DayTripper- It's not really a case of Leicester wanting to run on GP weeks it's the other weeks they want to run on but due to Poland the next day most riders don't want to be in the midlands until 10pm then get to Stansted or Luton around midnight for 3-4hra sleep before going over to Poland. I am not 100% on this but have heard two EL no1s have told their club can't do Leicester on Sats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 DayTripper- It's not really a case of Leicester wanting to run on GP weeks it's the other weeks they want to run on but due to Poland the next day most riders don't want to be in the midlands until 10pm then get to Stansted or Luton around midnight for 3-4hra sleep before going over to Poland. I am not 100% on this but have heard two EL no1s have told their club can't do Leicester on Sats. Well if it's only two EL clubs then that's tough. Surely they tell their number ones who is running the show or they turn with a PL 6 pointer. I appreciate your information is not first hand but it seems incredible that the fixture list is being held by two riders from two clubs. If it is that simple then it must be capable of being sorted. Presumably Walasek and Wosniac do the trip every home match so it's doable. I was talking to a Polish rider last year who was telling me how difficult Polish clubs are getting, often wanting riders to,practice on a Saturday and if you don't ask "How high?" When they tell you to jump they can make life very difficult for you. Maybe that has something to do with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 DayTripper- It's not really a case of Leicester wanting to run on GP weeks it's the other weeks they want to run on but due to Poland the next day most riders don't want to be in the midlands until 10pm then get to Stansted or Luton around midnight for 3-4hra sleep before going over to Poland. I am not 100% on this but have heard two EL no1s have told their club can't do Leicester on Sats. So those riders signed contracts to ride for the teams knowing they would be in their team to ride at a Saturday track and now won't do it. The tail wags the dog yet again. I don't have much time for promoters at present but IMHO some riders are getting too bloody big for their boots. Name and shame them and force their clubs to run with a NL guest. If that then means the greedy sods are out of a job cos the clubs wont run with NL guests - serve them right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 DayTripper- It's not really a case of Leicester wanting to run on GP weeks it's the other weeks they want to run on but due to Poland the next day most riders don't want to be in the midlands until 10pm then get to Stansted or Luton around midnight for 3-4hra sleep before going over to Poland. I am not 100% on this but have heard two EL no1s have told their club can't do Leicester on Sats. One of them will be Zagar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Swindon the other! (Possibly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 stand off or not. I cant believe clubs would say they are not able to ride Saturdays (which appears reasonable and realistic considering Lions cant find a full team for Saturdays themselves) without providing an alternative solution. So Mondays, Wednesday Thursday or Friday...take your pick - Obviously Friday would suit DH the best because of his thought that a no school day/next day adds to the attendance. And then we get back to the beginning..Coventry will not allow Lions to ride on Fridays as their regular race night. Which again confirms that whilst individual promoters insist on thinking about themselves first, there is little future for the healthy growth of the sport....or even long term survival. When will they ever realize that battles between clubs should be fought out on the track, not in the meeting room! If I were DH I would not allow Coventry to use the Leicester track when they are evicted from Brandon.......hey presto Leicester runs on a Friday........WinWin situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sorry I should have explained better there is a number of riders who have said that they don't want to be at Leicester on Saturdays if it can be avoided but there is two riders who told their respective clubs months ago before they signed that Saturday wasn't an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 So - evenly matched teams (on Saturdays) for BP matches, and regular thrashings away. Not good for the quality of the league, as if it needed further reduction. Doesn't look like there's a lot of choice for the Elite League than to accept this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Swindon the other! (Possibly) Yes, I would imagine Jason Doyle wouldn't be too keen. rmcts.....If I were DH I would not allow Coventry to use the Leicester track when they are evicted from Brandon.......hey presto Leicester runs on a Friday........WinWin situation. Who says they want to? It was only an idea put forward by DH himself I believe. And where has it been officially said that Coventry would object to Leicester riding on Friday's? All I've ever seen is supposition on here which means nothing. Personally I think it would be a bad idea for them to both ride on the same night as quite a lot of fans go to Coventry as well as Leicester so their support would be lost. Edited January 22, 2016 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Belle Vue have home matches against Coventry and Lakeside on Saturdays so, as King's Lynn haven't yet got a No. 1, that seems only to leave Swindon, Poole or Wolves as the possible teams with the reluctant two No.1's. Assuming of course that there is some truth in this rumourthat Saturday isn't an option for a couple of riders. Edited January 22, 2016 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Were Leicester told at the AGM that they had to change race night for the 2016 season?? Were ALL EL teams told not to arrange ANY League fixtures on Saturdays?? If not, the AGM should/could not have actually have surely ended?? This all smells a bit fishy to me... If Leicester were told NOT to arrange EL fixtures on Saturdays, then they should not have been included in the 2016 Elite League, and been offered a place in the PL. But if any other EL teams arranged Saturday fixtures, well, that would show just how corrupt the BSPA are... Edited January 23, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punky Pete Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Shale Searcher........Why would Leicester not be allowed to arrange EL fixtures on a Saturday when other teams are allowed to do so that don't normally race on Saturdays and i've got a good idea who the two riders are if its only two and i would imagine they are both Australians but if they were told before they signed their contracts for the forthcoming season that they would have to ride in some Saturday fixtures where does that team stand if they refuse to ride surely a fine at the very least or points docked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) I don't know how its Coventry's fault as it seems obvious Leicester are being difficult and want to keep to Saturday night. For me IF Leicester did want to change to Friday id say let them as Coventry have probably one season left anyway. You can see why Leicester are insisting on Saturdays, it'll make the other sides weaker so would give a poor Leicester side a bit more of a chance. Edited January 23, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Saturday nights are no good for our league whilst Poland are top of the pile, our promoters are daft to even go there, how stupid of them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Belle Vue have home matches against Coventry and Lakeside on Saturdays so, as King's Lynn haven't yet got a No. 1, that seems only to leave Swindon, Poole or Wolves as the possible teams with the reluctant two No.1's. Assuming of course that there is some truth in this rumourthat Saturday isn't an option for a couple of riders. I read this week about a footballer who was apprentice at a club , decided he didnt like it and quit after 18 months , he then decided he did want to be a footballer but with another club ,and is now being prevented from doing so until a significant fee is paid in compensation to the club who initially trained him because he had, had to sign a compensation clause in his contract ,as all players do when starting out ..I think it's time speedway did the same with non EU riders , Not only would it put some much needed cash into the coffers when the likes of Hancock, Crump Woffinden decide to turn their backs after training in the UK ,but it may also enforce a little loyalty from those who still want to milk British Speedway at their and Polands convenience . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not too sure that Fridays will be a long term option either, with the top Polish league arranging some (upto 7 I think) league fixtures on Fridays this season?!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 DH should ask to rejoin the premier league , I bet that would sharpen a few reflexes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not too sure that Fridays will be a long term option either, with the top Polish league arranging some (upto 7 I think) league fixtures on Fridays this season?!!!! What's that all about, do they think they will get better crowds on Fridays or do they want Speedway under floodlights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan62 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Would a compromise be running on Saturdays but with a 3pm start time? I know there are issues with racing in the daytime e.g. keeping moisture in the track, but if it meant the top riders had more time to get to their flights to Poland, it might work for one season. The sun would be higher so no breaks while it dropped below the fence, more time for junior racing after the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 What's that all about, do they think they will get better crowds on Fridays or do they want Speedway under floodlights? One reason and one reason only-TV !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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