stevethelion Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think it was an interview in 2 parts. I heard the one last Tues and there was a follow up supposedly last Friday which I didn't hear. He was saying that we made progress as we finished 6th. A disjointed season due to rider issues but in a way that has benefitted the lions as they used a number of guests who were impressed with what we have and some indicated a desire to ride for us. He said that they have plenty to choose from. He said they first needed deal with ones they wanted to retain, Doyle, Wozniak and walasek if his shoulder could be sorted. Think it was an interview in 2 parts. I heard the one last Tues and there was a follow up supposedly last Friday which I didn't hear. He was saying that we made progress as we finished 6th. A disjointed season due to rider issues but in a way that has benefitted the lions as they used a number of guests who were impressed with what we have and some indicated a desire to ride for us. He said that they have plenty to choose from. He said they first needed deal with ones they wanted to retain, Doyle, Wozniak and walasek if his shoulder could be sorted. Sounds like a different interview to the one I heard. I listened to the one advertised on the Lions website which was aired on Demon FM last saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Keep up, it's about the fact that Leicester have lost a lot of fans over the last two years and not about crowd comparison to other clubs. If the track was good then Leicester wouldn't be losing fans. Keep up, crowds are down at all levels and most tracks. Nothing to do with the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 According to a report by Peter Oakes in the Daily Star Doyle will not be at Leicester next year. Mind you in the same report he refers to Belle Vue doing the treble in the 1990's so not exactly on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Being a Saturday night track is a problem with the top riders as has been a reason why Jason will be elsewhere in 2016. was a massive problem at eastbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Peter Oakes article confirms nothing Leicester fans did not already know if the Leicester club continue with Saturday nights it will have to be without Doyle and Wozniak due to Poland on a Sunday. With Doyle being a free agent Hemsley told him towards end of the season that he was to continue with Saturdays and will not change the track as suggested so Jason has looked elsewhere for a team spot and done an early deal so not to get left out. The thing is now it looks like Leicester will be forced to run midweek if they continue with EL just as they see the No1 leave whom may have stayed with Mon racing. Unless there is quick progress with new top riders wanting to come to Leicester I think it will be Premier league racing on Saturdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 with Swindon in doubt and Leicester having the wobbles, the bspa will be interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 British speedway has become dictated by what happens in Poland,Sweden and GP weekends as riders feel that is where the big money is now. Speedway is in such a mess here that promoters need to forget the top guys and look closer to home,I rather watch young Brits in the national league than Johnny Foreigner who is more interested riding in Poland. Leicester's only option is to ride in the premier or national league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Peter Oakes article confirms nothing Leicester fans did not already know if the Leicester club continue with Saturday nights it will have to be without Doyle and Wozniak due to Poland on a Sunday. With Doyle being a free agent Hemsley told him towards end of the season that he was to continue with Saturdays and will not change the track as suggested so Jason has looked elsewhere for a team spot and done an early deal so not to get left out. The thing is now it looks like Leicester will be forced to run midweek if they continue with EL just as they see the No1 leave whom may have stayed with Mon racing. Unless there is quick progress with new top riders wanting to come to Leicester I think it will be Premier league racing on Saturdays It wont be any easier getting top riders to ride on a Monday either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It wont be any easier getting top riders to ride on a Monday either. Like Bell Vue and Wolverhampton you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 British speedway has become dictated by what happens in Poland,Sweden and GP weekends as riders feel that is where the big money is now. Speedway is in such a mess here that promoters need to forget the top guys and look closer to home,I rather watch young Brits in the national league than Johnny Foreigner who is more interested riding in Poland. Leicester's only option is to ride in the premier or national league. I think that any rider, be he "Johnny Foreigner" or "Johnny English", will prioritise Poland and Sweden over the UK if it came down to having to decide. (see Woffinden, T.). And it's probably not "big money" - more like better money? But some are better than others, when it comes to sticking to their UK commitments, and it's usually because they are UK-based, like Iversen. So I don't think you can generalise. And do you consider Australians to be in the "Johnny Foreigner" category?? Most of them are UK-based. And I suppose just due to sheer numbers, it's pretty difficult to not need to employ a fair number of them, in order for teams to track 7 riders! I think that Leicester's predicament (and there were plenty of us predicting it from well before they joined the EL) is similar to the overall predicament of the EL, Saturday race night or not. Leicester's situation is just made a lot worse by it. Mr Hemsley's seemingly delusional output over the past two years about having "big name" riders lined-up has not fooled many, I'm sure. The thing is, does he still harbour such delusions? (and that's just the riders, never mind the track). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think that any rider, be he "Johnny Foreigner" or "Johnny English", will prioritise Poland and Sweden over the UK if it came down to having to decide. (see Woffinden, T.). And it's probably not "big money" - more like better money? But some are better than others, when it comes to sticking to their UK commitments, and it's usually because they are UK-based, like Iversen. So I don't think you can generalise. And do you consider Australians to be in the "Johnny Foreigner" category?? Most of them are UK-based. And I suppose just due to sheer numbers, it's pretty difficult to not need to employ a fair number of them, in order for teams to track 7 riders! I think that Leicester's predicament (and there were plenty of us predicting it from well before they joined the EL) is similar to the overall predicament of the EL, Saturday race night or not. Leicester's situation is just made a lot worse by it. Mr Hemsley's seemingly delusional output over the past two years about having "big name" riders lined-up has not fooled many, I'm sure. The thing is, does he still harbour such delusions? (and that's just the riders, never mind the track). Can DH take Leicester any further as he clearly doesn't listen to the paying public and many loyal fans are walking away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can DH take Leicester any further as he clearly doesn't listen to the paying public and many loyal fans are walking away. Loyal fans are walking away from all tracks. Must try harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Like Bell Vue and Wolverhampton you mean.Yep. Seems Belle Vue are switching to Wednesday,and at Wolves riders like Tai and Pawlicki not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can DH take Leicester any further as he clearly doesn't listen to the paying public and many loyal fans are walking away. Probably not, unless he has lots of dosh ready to splash. But hang on a minute - wasn't he boasting last year about Leicester being in the "upper quartile" (his very word i think) of UK speedway clubs when it comes to financial health? So where are they now? And was that just based on a delusional valuation of the Company? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Belle Vue are switching to Friday but using Wednesday when there is a GP. Both ourselves and Wolves have found problems signing riders as many don't want to race in Poland, the UK and Sweden on consecutive nights. Edited September 24, 2015 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Belle Vue are switching to Friday but using Wednesday when there is a GP. Both ourselves and Wolves have found problems signing riders as many don't want to race in Poland, the UK and Sweden on consecutive nights. That makes a lot of sense. But it sounds as if Dave "Mr Saturday" Hemsley isn't keen to follow that path for Leicester with the EL - even at the expense of losing one of the best riders Leicester has ever had. Maybe Coventry would object, and Peterborough, and that's where the problem lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Belle Vue are switching to Friday but using Wednesday when there is a GP. Both ourselves and Wolves have found problems signing riders as many don't want to race in Poland, the UK and Sweden on consecutive nights. Wish Wolves would take that option.Wednesday no dogs(but CVS dosent want to upset Brum/Cradley). Friday,dogs in the afternoon,(same as we already have on a Monday). Pretty sure we might get a couple of decent heat-leaders if we ride on those nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Apologies for hijacking the Leicester thread, but as a Wolves supporter I was raised on Friday night as race night and preferred that., but things altered when danMc & CVS swapped race nights and moved Hans Nielsen to the Brummies. So how about the Brummies having Mondays! As for Leicester's ambitions and the current decline of the Elite League - should they consider reverting back to Tuesday's as per the Blackbird Rd days and ride in the Swedish League. this way Doyle can remain with them, and the team can be rebadged as Lionerna - simples 😄😄 Edited September 24, 2015 by Lefty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Jason has said on Twitter that nothing has been done in terms of who he'll be riding for in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It seems to me that this year is one of the worst years for the EL, we have been going on about it year after year, but now it just seems to have hit rock bottom, taking a back seat to the other European nations. We don't even come out as second best these days. How long before it is all wrapped up. As said ealier I would rather watch a good meeting with a good selection of young Brits, than these so called super stars, who try to have the promoters over a barrel, the only reason they don't want to come and race over here is that fact that the promoters, cut their apron strings and could no longer call the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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