LagutaRacingFan Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Pretty certain Leicester won't bother fielding a PL side in the EL, would be a loss maker for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I wonder on what odds somebody will give me on Leicester not riding in the Elite league in 2016 and freezing their license for a year ?? The list of riders turning down the club grows everyday and options at the top end have just about been exhausted now. The only rider showing an interest is a 6pt PL rider who has never been over impressive at Beaumont Park It would not surprise me if the other Elite League promoters have been well aware of such a scenario happening for some time, and have made contingency plans to implement a 7 team league.Would there still be enough riders available, if another promoter took over and ran a Premier League side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 It would not surprise me if the other Elite League promoters have been well aware of such a scenario happening for some time, and have made contingency plans to implement a 7 team league. Would there still be enough riders available, if another promoter took over and ran a Premier League side? I thought Sky said it had to be at least 8 teams for them to cover it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 It is fact that a long list of riders have turned Leicester down this season due to them not moving the race night and have lost their no 1 due to it as well. It won't be in the PL as BSPA will not allow it and too many riders already signed for other clubs so it will be EL or nothing. I do wonder if the Leicester situation is delaying the Sam Masters case of where he is riding in 2016 as the Lions had agreed to purchase him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 It is fact that a long list of riders have turned Leicester down this season due to them not moving the race night and have lost their no 1 due to it as well. It won't be in the PL as BSPA will not allow it and too many riders already signed for other clubs so it will be EL or nothing. I do wonder if the Leicester situation is delaying the Sam Masters case of where he is riding in 2016 as the Lions had agreed to purchase him Thanks 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It won't be in the PL as BSPA will not allow it and too many riders already signed for other clubs so it will be EL or nothing. Surely the time has passed where a club can pull out of the E.L. as presumably at the AGM they had to confirm they were running in 2016 so to drop out would mean a hefty fine? So E.L. it will have to be then but I think David made a big mistake leaving the P.L. and he probably realizes it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I remember someone making the comment "Be careful what you wish for" when there was the discussion on here about Lions joining the Elite league. How true it has become! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) It was far better in the PL.....meetings every week on Saturday's or Sunday's. Edited November 23, 2015 by mrcts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Two catastrophic mistakes.(probably many other mistakes but these are the worst) Design of the track, and going into the EL at the wrong time. From what I've heard and read, both could have been avoided if David Hemsley had listened to the wise advice being offered and followed it. But if things do fall apart, then he will be blaming everyone else for it, including Santa Claus and the Fairies in hiis garden. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought Sky said it had to be at least 8 teams for them to cover it?Wouldn't be surprised if Sky has been alive to such a possibility for a while now. Not sure if the 8 teams "requirement" is contractually set in stone or not. But if there is also a concern for the quality of the product, then a reduction to 7 teams in 2016 could be of benefit. Sweden went down to 7 teams this year from 8 the previous one.And how many times did Sky cover Leicester matches in the two years? Two "obligatory" home matches and that was all. As Flagrag has previously pointed out onhere,deficiencies in the track lighting prevent matches from being covered outside the full daylight period.And deficiencies in the team have prevented away matches being featured. So would Sky really be all that concerned?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It was far better in the PL.....meetings every week on Saturday's or Sunday's. maybe...but you know what? some people, me included actually prefer Elite League racing, or at least the concept of EL & two things need to happen in order to cement the concept. 1. Lions move their race night away from the weekend (its got to happen in 2017 anyway so why not with support from the other BSPA promoters do it this year) 2. The EL agree on a single same night racing every week i.e. a home meeting every two weeks. or back to back race nights every week (i.e.Thurs & Friday) if promoters want to stage a home meeting each week. There is a third Lions specific, and yes, its change the track, but I think the first two are more likely to happen so lets focus on them first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 maybe...but you know what? some people, me included actually prefer Elite League racing, or at least the concept of EL & two things need to happen in order to cement the concept. 1. Lions move their race night away from the weekend (its got to happen in 2017 anyway so why not with support from the other BSPA promoters do it this year) 2. The EL agree on a single same night racing every week i.e. a home meeting every two weeks. or back to back race nights every week (i.e.Thurs & Friday) if promoters want to stage a home meeting each week. There is a third Lions specific, and yes, its change the track, but I think the first two are more likely to happen so lets focus on them first Maybe, but what if during the two years in the EL, he/Leicester have become as unpopular among fellow promoters as a fart in an astronaut's space-suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 There is only one way forward for the Lions and them having any chance of speedway continuing at BP and that is for DH to relinquish his hold on the club. Let someone come in who knows the game change the track and the race night, because if he carries on running the show for much longer, speedway in Leicester will have been a very short lived return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Surely the time has passed where a club can pull out of the E.L. as presumably at the AGM they had to confirm they were running in 2016 so to drop out would mean a hefty fine? So E.L. it will have to be then but I think David made a big mistake leaving the P.L. and he probably realizes it now. They have to lodge a £10,000 bond which they can loose if they pull out so that's a big incentive to stay in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 El Addio I think the bond is even higher this year I've reports it could be over 30k for elite league as after the Birmingham situation there was lots of debts outstanding to riders and clubs which the 10k didn't cover so it was increased to cover these additional risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 They have to lodge a £10,000 bond which they can loose if they pull out so that's a big incentive to stay in. But if by running Leicester are going to lose more than that and ruin any future, it might be more sensible to sit out the season. Obviously I hope it doesn't come to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) El Addio I think the bond is even higher this year I've reports it could be over 30k for elite league as after the Birmingham situation there was lots of debts outstanding to riders and clubs which the 10k didn't cover so it was increased to cover these additional risks. I thought the bond had been £30k for the last couple of seasons?? Or perhaps that only applied to 'risky' clubs, after their end-of-season accounts had been presented to BSPA MC.? Edited November 23, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I was attacked for saying the club was heading into crisis 18 months ago and got slaughtered on here for daring to say that but it's sad to say I was right and it's sad for the bleak future of speedway in Leicester. DH needs to put it up for sale at an affordable price to save the sport in Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Looks like the bond may actually be 50k for next season which is a lot of money to lose but how much would you lose with a uncompetitive side and having to pay riders over the odds. A very careful decision has to be made about what to do the next signing i have been hearing about is not at top end but a PL 3rd heatleader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 But if by running Leicester are going to lose more than that and ruin any future, it might be more sensible to sit out the season. Obviously I hope it doesn't come to this. If they did there would probably not be a lot left of the stadium/track to go back to in view of all the vandalism they have to put up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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