beckettlion Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Fair enough but I'm sure he's had some pretty good meetings there. My memory is awful but didn't he win the meeting for Wolves last season by passing the Lions rider/s on the 4th bend in heat 15? Another thing to consider is the journey to your home track. A nice easy quick wizz up the M69 from Coventry to Leicester or tackle the M6 or trip to Manchester on a Friday. I know which I'd prefer. Bomber normally goes pretty well round Leicester... Hard to tell if it's because he rides the track well or if it's because he's riding against our weak team though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I think the fine reflects the fact that this is not the first time Hemsley has fell foul of the BSPA , but it is the first time they have had anything concrete and public enough to take action . looking at the bigger picture . these 2 sets of stubborn goats .could see Leicester close because of their silly king of the playground ego's . the bspa are the absolute masters of shooting themselves and the supporters in the foot . and they would rather see leicester close down (thereby getting their hands on the bond) than work to find a solution where another team is not lost yet the problems are pushed aside . the bspa killed milton keynes . and were half way to killing off Coventry and Peterborough ( well they still can be blamed for killing off the former and will by me for sure ) Your right the bspa are to blame on killing clubs, MK yes, Peterborough was nearly closed twice by them ,Coventry nearly closed twice,even Banned there promoter as he spoke out about Poole rule bending and the bspa banned him,fellow promoters in charge of the ban. The sport must have an independent board as its a dictatorship run sport. Edited June 9, 2016 by robert72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Why would that happen? Who would be stupid enough to run Coventry Speedway at Leicester without Leicester having their own team? More likely that both clubs will fold. Surely is Coventry are track-less and Leicester are promoter-less the solution is for Mick to take over Leicester. He could keep the best of the Leicester set-up and the name but could take the better bits of Coventry, some riders, sponsors, backroom team and a few fans might pop along too if theres some familiarity but it would still be Leicester and the people of Leicester would support it. To move Coventry to Leicester in place of (or even in addition to) Leciester would be madness and would work for nobody at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 lets put this in context helmsley fined £9000 and 12 month ban for basically abusive behaviour, was anyone assaulted,hospitalised, is there a police investigation for gbh???? ( im not saying hemsley is innocent im saying the punishment does not fit the crime by bsap/scb standards) a rider deliberately knocks a rider off, injures rider , rider misses rest of season..............penalty----- £200 fine and 2 week ban i rest my case.... He entertains a fantasy of being some kind of heroic renegade, stirring up the established order and emerging triumphant. This usually ends up in either of two outcomes: 1. Go down in history as a hero 2. Go down in history a a complete prat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) That comparison doesn't really work though does it. A footballer can break someone's leg and get a 3 week ban, but allegedly make a racist comment and be banned for months. A footballer can be fined 100k for swearing but someone get a fine for committing an assAult 10p times less. As for it being his own stadium. You think the Glazers could walk onto the pitch at old Trafford during a match, or the referees dressing room before a game, and escape a fine? If you enter a competition you sign up to a set of rules, and if you break them you are subject to the disciplinary procedures you signed up to. That's not to say the fine here is necessarily fare, the full details aren't in the public domain, but your arguments are flawed i think your arguement flawed, the rider getting deliberately knocked off happened after the race, so if a footballer broke another player leg after the whistle while walking back to the changing rooms would he get the same punishment ? i think there would be outcry for a total ban on the player , ive never heard of a footballer being fined 100,000 for swearing! and if they was its only a weeks salary to them Edited June 10, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I think that most people agree that, if any rules have been broken, then a punishment should follow. It's the scale of the punishment compared to other decisions in disciplinary cases that bothers me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Bomber normally goes pretty well round Leicester... Hard to tell if it's because he rides the track well or if it's because he's riding against our weak team though! He passed Doyley around bends 3 and 4 last season.. not someone who could be regarded as weak oppo. Plus, if first two corners are altered as per 3 & 4 for next eason there will be some good lines for Bomber to exploit without the need scrub off so much speed as previous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 If anyone took over the reins at BP the first job I hope they would do would be to alter the track, the second one is to approach the Council to get the land that is wated behind the disabled car parking and the wasted land at the side of the main entrance that looks a little like a bomb site into much needed carparking, instead of as at the moment having to use the the shopping carpark, with a time limit on it when it is a free carpark as only SCB knows to well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 If anyone took over the reins at BP the first job I hope they would do would be to alter the track, the second one is to approach the Council to get the land that is wated behind the disabled car parking and the wasted land at the side of the main entrance that looks a little like a bomb site into much needed carparking, instead of as at the moment having to use the the shopping carpark, with a time limit on it when it is a free carpark as only SCB knows to well. The council are still waiting for the football pitches and BMX track to be provided . plus any new owner would have to remove all the spoil that Hemsley dumped where they were supposed to be sited . £35 a load went a long way towards the cost of building the track , but hey lets not tarnish st davids crown with any facts him not financing the whole place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 To move Coventry to Leicester in place of (or even in addition to) Leciester would be madness and would work for nobody at all. So given the BSPA's many previous examples in devising and implementing plans, we know that this is exactly what will happen!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Interesting piece on the Leicester Mercury website tonight ( sorry don't know how to post link) . DH says he will appeal fine " on a number of grounds" including the "huge" fine."I feel the press release misrepresented me & is not an accurate statement of fact". He says "I hold my hands up to threatening and abusive language but there were reasons behind why that was the case. But I am not a liar"." The fine also needs to reflect the actual allegations that can be substantiated" . He goes on to say the fine will be paid one way or another & will have no impact on the future of the club. Also adding, that he told the SCB 3 weeks in advance he couldn't attend the hearing & gave them 3 alternative dates when he could attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-Lions-owner-David-Hemsley-appeal-9000/story-29382214-detail/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-Lions-owner-David-Hemsley-appeal-9000/story-29382214-detail/story.html Thanks, must learn how to do that, would save me a lot of typing, because i'm crap at that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) He said - they said!!! I have to smile upon reading that DH criticises the SCB for the way they've publicised the adjudication and then he does the same with his letter of appeal?! Edited June 9, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 He said - they said!!! I have to smile upon reading that DH criticises the SCB for the way they've publicised the adjudication and then he does the same with his letter of appeal?! And admits his guilt in it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 And admits his guilt in it as well. He admitted threatening and abusive behaviour, nowhere in the article does he admit to anything else. There again I'm not a great believer in the press giving the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He also says he informed the SCB that he was unable to attend on the date and gave alternatives but I note you haven't quoted that bit I don't know the whys and the wherefores of what he did or didn't do but I do have a sense of fair play. In a court of law pleading guilty usually means a lesser sentence, If that applies to the SCB lord above knows what the original fine was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 He admitted threatening and abusive behaviour, nowhere in the article does he admit to anything else. There again I'm not a great believer in the press giving the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He also says he informed the SCB that he was unable to attend on the date and gave alternatives but I note you haven't quoted that bit I don't know the whys and the wherefores of what he did or didn't do but I do have a sense of fair play. In a court of law pleading guilty usually means a lesser sentence, If that applies to the SCB lord above knows what the original fine was The original fine was £300 which it appears he didn't pay or appeal. Admitting guilt in a newspaper article has no bearing on a hearing that wasn't attended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainlion Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The council are still waiting for the football pitches and BMX track to be provided . plus any new owner would have to remove all the spoil that Hemsley dumped where they were supposed to be sited . £35 a load went a long way towards the cost of building the track , but hey lets not tarnish st davids crown with any facts him not financing the whole place At one point I thought those vert ramps are going to be wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The original fine was £300 which it appears he didn't pay or appeal. Admitting guilt in a newspaper article has no bearing on a hearing that wasn't attended. It could be submitted if he does appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) It could be submitted if he does appeal. True, but I was referring to SL's misguided last sentence. Edited June 9, 2016 by Alan Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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