ouch Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 The Lions have got PL written all over them next year. I don't think their fans are EL snobs and if anything crowds would go up. Really the only difference now is a top liner instead of a 3 point newbie, after that EL & PL are very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 The Lions have got PL written all over them next year. I don't think their fans are EL snobs and if anything crowds would go up. Really the only difference now is a top liner instead of a 3 point newbie, after that EL & PL are very similar. Leicester has had no luck with the teams they have assembled since being in the EL but for me most of that is the clubs own problem Belle Vue Swindon Kings Lynn and Lakseide was all Saturday night clubs but all soon realised years ago if you want to put together a better team you can't race Saturday nights so really Leicester only have there selfs to blame for sticking with Saturday nights and having weak team . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It's really not that hard to understand. Race Saturday in the EL and have poor team. Alternative, stay in EL, but change your race night. Go back to PL and keep Saturday nights. With the team Leicester are currently putting out they will not win a meeting home or away, they simply aren't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 When I held a student card it ran the course of the academic year. It had a start and end date. Don't they have them anymore?? They do! Mine has an expiry date and has the name of the university on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Nightshirt The biggest problem the Lions are going to face this season is staying operating as I understand that they are loosing around £3-4000 a meeting due to crowds dropping off due to the poor performances. The club can not continue many more weeks like that especially as still got to pay riders for the away meetings out of your home match revenue as if your loosing money at home the away has to come out of own savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Leicester has had no luck with the teams they have assembled since being in the EL but for me most of that is the clubs own problem Belle Vue Swindon Kings Lynn and Lakseide was all Saturday night clubs but all soon realised years ago if you want to put together a better team you can't race Saturday nights so really Leicester only have there selfs to blame for sticking with Saturday nights and having weak team . Spot on sadly as normal people always blame the sport or what league there in when a club does bad ...but most of time is because the club has been run poorly ..this is a classic example . you can't ride at a weekend in the El it's as simple as that. They should have changed there race night and the fans would have soon got used to to it and if you put out a better side the crowds in time will get better Edited May 28, 2016 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 id rather see them in the national league and making some money than close down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Surely Walasek has found some form now and Ulamek is over his 'wrist injury', so can't they be re-signed?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems that people here are blaming Leicester for the situation, the real blame lies with the governing body which allows Polish Speedway to do exactly what it wants. I agree that Leicester could probably have a better choice of riders if they ran on another night. Meanwhile I'd forget about Polish Speedway, allow all uk riders to ride in both leagues and if any Poles want to ride here next year it should be under OUR terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems that people here are blaming Leicester for the situation, the real blame lies with the governing body which allows Polish Speedway to do exactly what it wants. I agree that Leicester could probably have a better choice of riders if they ran on another night. Meanwhile I'd forget about Polish Speedway, allow all uk riders to ride in both leagues and if any Poles want to ride here next year it should be under OUR terms. I agree, but do you really think thats going to happen. Riders like Magic are crowd drawers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 No the main problem is Leicester riding home matches on Saturdays, which means they are seriously hampered by the availability of riders wanting to ride in the EL who are involved with GP,s and FIM meetings etc. If they rode midweek the situation would improve, providing of course Leicester pay the appropriate rates. Poles being recalled by their Polish Club has been a problem for years but until riders put two fingers up to these clubs nothing will change although the problem isn't as common as it once was. If Hemsley was as bright as people say he would have realised this years ago, Saturday nights are for PL only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Nightshirt The biggest problem the Lions are going to face this season is staying operating as I understand that they are loosing around £3-4000 a meeting due to crowds dropping off due to the poor performances. The club can not continue many more weeks like that especially as still got to pay riders for the away meetings out of your home match revenue as if your loosing money at home the away has to come out of own savings. I understand that. The whole situation at Leicester can only be put down to one thing I'm afraid. The people who make the decisions have made the wrong ones. I think anyone with a modicum of business acumen would have realised that running on a Saturday in the EL was not a viable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) No the main problem is Leicester riding home matches on Saturdays, which means they are seriously hampered by the availability of riders wanting to ride in the EL who are involved with GP,s and FIM meetings etc. If they rode midweek the situation would improve, providing of course Leicester pay the appropriate rates. Poles being recalled by their Polish Club has been a problem for years but until riders put two fingers up to these clubs nothing will change although the problem isn't as common as it once was. If Hemsley was as bright as people say he would have realised this years ago, Saturday nights are for PL only. And clashes with GP's. He does really need to start looking at midweek fixtures. Its not as though they are sharing there stadium with anything like most other EL clubs do. Edited May 28, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 id rather see them in the national league and making some money than close down I agree. From what I have seen and heard its a much better product than the Elite League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I agree, but do you really think thats going to happen. Riders like Magic are crowd drawers. He doesn't ride here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I think that last night was the first meeting since the Lions re-opened that we did not have one rider who won a race! Says it all really! Nightshirt The biggest problem the Lions are going to face this season is staying operating as I understand that they are loosing around £3-4000 a meeting due to crowds dropping off due to the poor performances. The club can not continue many more weeks like that especially as still got to pay riders for the away meetings out of your home match revenue as if your loosing money at home the away has to come out of own savings. DH won't be paying out much by way of points money will he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 No DH will not be paying a lot out in points money but you still have all the travelling expenses,van leases,start money and often riders will do deals where they get a guaranteed minimum to make sure it's worth their while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham78 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Personally I think David and Yulia Hemsley have done a fine job in bring speedway back to Leicester. The stadium is very good and shows what can be done when building a facility for the sport from scratch ( albeit with a slightly less than perfect track). Unlike some other people here who think David lacks business acumen or is just plain stupid I think the club is well run. The only thing I think you can accuse him of is a bit of over ambition and a maybe being a little stubborn. As is patently clear you cannot run a successful EL speedway team with a Saturday race night (Eastbourne). However David has said that switching to a mid-week slot doesn't work as there is a significant drop off in attendance. Surely the best option then is a return to the Premier League where he can retain the Saturday night slot and with better rider availability in that league he can build a competitive team again and present a better racing experience. I'd never criticise him for wanting to compete in the EL as I imagine it was always his ultimate aim when resurecting the club but it hasn't worked out so cut your losses and return to a model that works and most importantly the sport is retained in the city and the track continues to operate. I'm a Swindon fan and intend going to Beaumont Park next Saturday and I wish the Lions all the best for the rest of the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems that people here are blaming Leicester for the situation, the real blame lies with the governing body which allows Polish Speedway to do exactly what it wants. I agree that Leicester could probably have a better choice of riders if they ran on another night. Meanwhile I'd forget about Polish Speedway, allow all uk riders to ride in both leagues and if any Poles want to ride here next year it should be under OUR terms. What you're demanding is exactly the problem with the BSPA past. We can't start again demanding what league foreign riders race in. It's why (rightly so) that the BSPA moved is stance on the Danish league. Every teams promotion knows the risk of using Polish rider's. If the Polish team demands practice then that's what the Polish rider has to do. Leicester were warned many times about running Saturday's. The situation they find themselves in is purely and simply Leicester promotions fault only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Every teams promotion knows the risk of using Polish rider's. If the Polish team demands practice then that's what the Polish rider has to do. y. Piotr Swiderski has never let Lakeside down because his Polish club demanded practice, and as far as I can recall Adam Skornicki and Magic Janowski haven't either,,to name but two. Edited May 28, 2016 by Daytripper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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