bigeddiechek Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 agree,interesting BSPA conference,but wouldn't hold my breath on outcome. Aye, surely this time there MUST be some changes to help the overall sport. I'll not hold my breath either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 they think its all over ithink it is now mmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Poor meeting where most races were all over by the second bend brightened only by Edward Kennett who provided the only resistance to the home sides domination. It would be unfair to criticize Ruddick & Basford who were always going to be out of their depth. Poor crowd, and there seemed to be an air of resignation that most were watching their last meeting at Shielfield, time will tell if they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 You guys can say what you like about Dick Barrie, but for him to let my little nephew draw the raffle and watch a race from the centre green tonight was first class of the man. He was asking him who his favourite Bandit was and really made a fuss over him, made his night He does a really good job with the mascots at the introductions. agree,interesting BSPA conference,but wouldn't hold my breath on outcome. You would like to think so. Obviously every decision they make won't be the approval of all the fans, but at least you would like to think that they were having long, hard discussions about how to improve the product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 He does a really good job with the mascots at the introductions. You would like to think so. Obviously every decision they make won't be the approval of all the fans, but at least you would like to think that they were having long, hard discussions about how to improve the product. We keep being told on a yearly bases that promoters are listening and that this year is the big year of change,yet the changes necessary never seem to happen. Many of the changes needed have been highlighted in the Speedway Star magazine in recent weeks, let's see how many are put in place for 2016, sadly those changes needed to secure speedways future may be to late to save Berwick and potentially one of two others though there is some good news at least as it looks like Workington are definite runners for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 There is an additional promoters meeting taking place before the PLRC at Sheffield Sunday at about two pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Aye, surely this time there MUST be some changes to help the overall sport. I'll not hold my breath either. Some changes? We all know what speedway does when there's clubs losing money, they dilute the sport even more and that drives more fans away!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 There is an additional promoters meeting taking place before the PLRC at Sheffield Sunday at about two pmThat will be a couple of beers and let's go go watch the meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Some changes? We all know what speedway does when there's clubs losing money, they dilute the sport even more and that drives more fans away!! Surely better than no racing at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 While Rye were well beaten there was no lack of effort from all their riders,and at least we seen the young guys like Ruddick and Basford get track time and they put in 4 laps of effort each time they were out on track,which is refreshing considering some of the things we have had to watch this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I was watching an interview with Steve Lawson at the Lough or maybe Shawfield.... Sport's future was uncertain back then same questions were being asked then Steve sounded really passionate about the Sport... Fast forward to present day Jorgenson, Worrall and Wells in the PLRC line up. What the hell has happened to the PL? Zagar Parker, Zorro, Watson, Lyons Topinka, Schott, Schlien, Bird, Boyce Shields, Wilson, Larsen, Havelock, Doyle, Ward, Woffinden Yes these men raced in PL teams week in week out And for the vast majority those riders were reliable consistent top performers week in week out I'm sure tracks weren't ideal then and no air fences but these guys made it work It's depressing looking at Speedway as it is today, young Lambert has it in him to go all the way. If he was Polish he'd have been banned..... He should be banned from racing in this country and if that makes him a better rider he can ply his trade where the money is. If riders can't fulfil fixtures they get banned or the clubs fined, unacceptable and last night I felt sorry for the public and Berwick (to a degree) Injuries happen I get that, but riders and clubs mugging clueless fans off is not. But we make the decision to pay ourselves in ... Speedway needs a massive overhaul for any hope of survival, club promoters sitting on the Sport's board needs to stop..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Dick is vastly under-appreciated: by some folk. mmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I was watching an interview with Steve Lawson at the Lough or maybe Shawfield.... Sport's future was uncertain back then same questions were being asked then Steve sounded really passionate about the Sport... Fast forward to present day Jorgenson, Worrall and Wells in the PLRC line up. What the hell has happened to the PL? Zagar Parker, Zorro, Watson, Lyons Topinka, Schott, Schlien, Bird, Boyce Shields, Wilson, Larsen, Havelock, Doyle, Ward, Woffinden Yes these men raced in PL teams week in week out And for the vast majority those riders were reliable consistent top performers week in week out I'm sure tracks weren't ideal then and no air fences but these guys made it work It's depressing looking at Speedway as it is today, young Lambert has it in him to go all the way. If he was Polish he'd have been banned..... He should be banned from racing in this country and if that makes him a better rider he can ply his trade where the money is. If riders can't fulfil fixtures they get banned or the clubs fined, unacceptable and last night I felt sorry for the public and Berwick (to a degree) Injuries happen I get that, but riders and clubs mugging clueless fans off is not. But we make the decision to pay ourselves in ... Speedway needs a massive overhaul for any hope of survival, club promoters sitting on the Sport's board needs to stop..... In the mid 1960's Lord Shawcross was commissioned by the Royal Automobile Club to do a report into Speedway , which at that time was in turmoil ( nothing new there then ) , from of his conclusions we saw the setting up of The New National League , of which Berwick where founder members , this of course led to the Premier League we have today .He also recommended that the sport was run by an independent ruling body , almost 50 years later we are still waiting on that to happen ,until we can remove blinkered self interest, and petty oneupmanship from the people running speedway it will never move on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 In the mid 1960's Lord Shawcross was commissioned by the Royal Automobile Club to do a report into Speedway , which at that time was in turmoil ( nothing new there then ) , from of his conclusions we saw the setting up of The New National League , of which Berwick where founder members , this of course led to the Premier League we have today .He also recommended that the sport was run by an independent ruling body , almost 50 years later we are still waiting on that to happen ,until we can remove blinkered self interest, and petty oneupmanship from the people running speedway it will never move on I think its still in the "under consideration" stage, give it a few more years and I am sure they will get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) I like dick Edited September 6, 2015 by Dyson24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I like dick Reply edited, edited again, deleted, re-posted, edited again. Nothing left to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Reply edited, edited again, deleted, re-posted, edited again. Nothing left to say. Too good to be true. Either someone doing a very good impression of an idiot, or a genuine full blown loony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 In the mid 1960's Lord Shawcross was commissioned by the Royal Automobile Club to do a report into Speedway , which at that time was in turmoil ( nothing new there then ) , from of his conclusions we saw the setting up of The New National League , of which Berwick where founder members , this of course led to the Premier League we have today .He also recommended that the sport was run by an independent ruling body , almost 50 years later we are still waiting on that to happen ,until we can remove blinkered self interest, and petty oneupmanship from the people running speedway it will never move on Unfortunately incorrect. In 1964, following the collapse of the National League and the running of the Provincial League as an unlicenced league during that season over a dispute over the attempted forcible promotion of Wolverhampton, 1963 PL champions into the NL, Lord Shawcross was commissioned to report on the future of speedway. He recommended a merger of the two leagues to form the British League which commenced in 1965. In 1968 a second division was formed which included Berwick. After operating for seven seasons as British League Division two the lower league renamed itsewlf the New National League to emphasise how it wished to be seen as an independent body which it progressively became. After a few seasons the 'New' was dropped from the name and the BL and NL ran pretty separately until the end of the 1980s. In 1991 the two leagues came back together to reform as British League divisions 1 & 2 with a controversial and ultimately unworkable promotion and relegation system. In 1995 the declining numbers of tracks saw another restart attempted by the forming of one league, the Premier League. In that and the following season the former NL clubs weren't helped to rise to BL standards and it was clear that the merger had been near-fatal to the former second tier clubs. In 1997 several teams broke away to form an Elite League, the situation that still exists today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Absolutely correct, Rob. Amazing how, if you're not careful "the legend becomes fact" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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