Alex2000 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Not at all most Birmingham fans are resigned to the fact that we shall win nothing else this season. Thats a bit pessimistic isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Birmingham had every chance to have it sewn up by now. Defeats against Cradley, Rye and Buxton have put them in this position. If they had won just one of those matches then the addition of Spiller would have been immaterial from a league perspective. Â At least it's made the end of season a bit more exciting, if Brum win then they'll win the league, if the Eagles take it then they're in the box seat with still some work to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Eastbourne are going to have to provide say 6 race winners to win at brum, unless spiller gets say 16 from 7 to back up 2 or 3 wins from Wilson dean I can't see where they are going to come from. It should be close but in the important races at the end of the meeting brum should be fav  The FC doesn't look too clever either from mid afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Eastbourne need advantages in 2, 8, 14 preferably 5-1 as that's where Birmingham are weaker. 3-3 in heat 1 will do. As long as we get the minor places in most races and the advantages in the key reserve heats and Birminghams weaker heats nothing is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message including your mobile number. Â Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Tonight will be all about who ups their game and who has an off night. Ellis & Perry are experienced enough to do their job but will Kirby or Chapman step up and make a difference? Personally id move Chapman to no.2 to stabilise the leaky heats. Govier is a good booking and Jack Smith has the potential to deliver (knew he wouldn't sign for Kent). For Eastbourne it all hinges on the lower order. Will Andrews do well enough, can Kelsey find a liking for Perry bar and how many rides will Spiller take. Its all about questions tonight. Will a big name exclusion / contentious decision decide it? Will Eastbourne build enough of a lead before hts 13 & 15? And will Adam Kirby be breathing a huge sigh of relief when he see's Georgie Wood cant make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Weather forecast seems to have taken a turn for the better compared to previous ones (both bbc and met office), onwards to Perry Barr! Â Haven't been there before so really looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellioth4 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message including your mobile number.  Thanks  Meeting is now covered by Lauren and myself. Updates available on: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/14989/birmingham-eastbourne-nl-weds-30pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well done to the Brummies. Two brilliant teams with some great riders taking it down to the last heat. Completely gutted as an Eastbourne fan but we lost to a good Brummie team and like us, they have joined the NL and taken it by storm!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ht8 killed eastie, half a lap clear on a 5-1 and spiller picked up and crashed, they were home and dry if staying upright. Â Well done brum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) That meeting had everything, absolutely brilliant! Some great racing at times, some points thrown away from both sides, a great duel between Adam Ellis and Bradley Wilson Dean, some big crashes and a meeting won on the last heat. For me thats in my top 3 Brummies matches since 2007 when i followed the sport. Â Massive respect to both teams for the effort they put it, we had our slice of luck like Heat 8 when it was Spiller and Andrews were miles infront over Govier on a 5-1 then Spiller ploughs into the main straight fence. We had that heat when BWD missed the two minutes and had to come off 15m, then he came off third bend in the rerun when he probably would have caught a Brummie. We had a bit aswell like when Eliis came off miles in front for no reason, I thought at the time we would be made to pay for it but in the end we didnt. Â The duel between Adam Ellis and Bradley Wilson Dean was great, nobody upto now imo is a match for Ellis in the NL. We saw BWD gate and get in front of Adam in Heat 1 but Adam passed in during the race but BWD got is revenge in heat 13 with a great gate and ride to win. However with so much on the meeting going into heat 15 BWD gated ahead of Ellis but Adam passed him back straight first lap to win it for the Brummies. Enjoyed that and I must add a Tom Perry special round the outside of Andrews and BWD in one move in heat 11. I kid you not I shut my eyes, as I thought for all the tea in china that Perry was going into the fence. Â A big result for us but we need to get something from Mildenhall on sunday. That was a fantastic advert for not only the NL but the sport, well done Eastbourne, your riders gave it their all tonight. Edited September 2, 2015 by Brummie Kev 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordoftheShale Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Three more points for Birmingham, that'll do me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUFC_Brummie Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Absolutely brilliant result, best of the admittedly few meetings I've seen this season. Thrills and spills for both sides, but credit to Adam and Zach (who did his job of bogging down BWD in turn 1) for pulling out what we needed in heat 15. Â Now to find a way to get to Mildenhall on Sunday.... Edited September 2, 2015 by CUFC_Brummie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Well that was a meeting of contrasts. An almost unraceable track (falls in every one of heats 2 to 9) but a fiercely competitive match with Tom Perry showing no fear for the conditions and Ellis and BWD proving well matched. Â The advantage swung from one team to the other with never more than four points separating the teams and just one going into heat 15 after Hopwood and Spiller salvaged a 3-all in Ht 14 from what looked to be heading for a Brummie 5-1 for two laps. Â Brummies have had a fantastic year after last year's agonising death, but I hope Mildenhall pull off a shock win on Sunday just to keep this intriguing title battle between two well matched (but vey differently structured) teams going a little longer. Â A great shame that the weather affected the crowd, more paying fans would have improved the atmosphere and Birmingham's bank balance - but what an absorbing contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Well that was a meeting of contrasts. An almost unraceable track (falls in every one of heats 2 to 9) but a fiercely competitive match with Tom Perry showing no fear for the conditions and Ellis and BWD proving well matched... ... A great shame that the weather affected the crowd, more paying fans would have improved the atmosphere and Birmingham's bank balance - but what an absorbing contest.... Â If the definition of an unraceable track is measured by the number of fallers, then Birmingham's track has been unraceable all year. Last night's faller count was 11. The season's average is about 9. Hardly an earth shattering difference, so hardly a fair way to come to that conclusion. Granted that it was disappointing that a higher than average tumble count came in the match between the league's top two teams, but then again these are youngsters for whom this may be their first experience of real pressure...so maybe there were other factors at play? Â I have to admit to being disappointed with the crowd levels. OK it had been wet in the previous days, but this isn't the EL any more, NL riders are known for "getting on with it" so the experienced fans should have expected to see some racing. That said, I'll go back to what I said before the season started, that success or failure for the Brummies won't be measured by whether or not they win the league, but on how much bigger the crowd is at the end of the season than it was at the start of the season. Sad to report, that despite topping the league, and having the best rider and the best British newcomer in the league, and despite winning the NL 4's, there's not been any obvious growth in numbers. Mind you, nor have there been any high profile fan recruitment campaigns either. It seems to me that there's enough income from the existing and increasingly aged fan base to pay the bills and to "make it worthwhile" to just plod on as is. There seems to be a contentment with the status-quo and no apparent ambition to elevate the club...or not at this point anyway. Â So, has the season been a success? Well, it ran it's course, which is what it didn't do last year, that has to be a good thing. But by just treading water rather than building for long term survival and viability, that has to be seen as a bad thing. Seems to me that Tony Mole's tactics are to allow income to exceed the lower levels of expenditure at this level of speedway and to deliver a club that has a decent set of accounts so that he can sell it on (as he undoubtedly will) to someone else prepared to take the risks of advancing the club. An understandable strategy for someone of his age, as just like the fans, he's no spring chicken any more. Hardly reassuring to the fans who want to see something more befitting "one of the biggest clubs in speedway" (quote: Graham Drury) Edited September 3, 2015 by uk martin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Shame really but i guess if Birmingham pick cradely in the Gold Cup then we will know is all about money in the pockets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham C Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Shame really but i guess if Birmingham pick cradely in the Gold Cup then we will know is all about money in the pockets. Birmingham would be crazy to pick any team other than Cradley in the Gold Cup Semi-Final(if they have the choice). Â Guaranteed good crowd, plenty of "local" media interest, money in the bank - balance this against choosing any other opponents. You would probably get a "decent" crowd, but nowhere near as good as against Cradley, "local" media interest and money in the bank, would also be reduced. Â Given the choice Brummies should choose Cradley, with the 1st leg at "home", and, if we did happen to qualify for the Final see what we can do to maximise the interest from supporters and media alike, having already had a "Bumper" pay day in the Semi's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I can see the reason why but thats going to be a close one for Birmingham too a very big chance to take, whos is going to be 4th Rye House or Coventry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I can see the reason why but thats going to be a close one for Birmingham too a very big chance to take, whos is going to be 4th Rye House or Coventry? Consider if they chose Coventry or Rye House and lost... Â Eastbourne with trick track advantage will beat Birmingham over 2 legs so grab the money on the way to the final whilst you can. Total business sense. Remember, Tony Mole is a businessman first and foremost, NOT a romantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Just noticed on the updates site that Dugard was RR in heat 4. i thought RR didn't count as a normal ride ? Therefore he didn't take his 3 rides ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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