mdmc82 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yet another non-answer. Can we just expect to bow out humiliatingly in the semi finals then? That's the sad thing. We have had a great season but what's that going to count for when the promotion look to have given up and we could have a humiliating meltdown at the worst time. I understand that Garrity being injured is a big blow for the team and also the management and that is not something they have control over. However the question now simply is with less than a week left for changes to be made, are they going to be happy to finish 3rd or possibly 4th in the table after being top all year and then just be happy making up the numbers in the play offs. Or even though we now can't finish top, are they going to strengthen our top 5, get the team spirit back and some confidence entering the play offs and put up a fight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) I don't agree with a lot of the stick you come in for here on this forum... but come on, what facts? BEES v SWINDON, PREVIEW Friday August 21, 2015 ... Full team news to follow on Friday. He didn't say which Friday though. If Garrity was kept in hospital they obviously knew that he was unavailable. What was wrong with telling everyone what the situation was? I'm certain it would have been accepted by the fans rather than having the "no news " approach, which upset many. Edited August 22, 2015 by Dave Jones 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham78 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 As a Swindon fan I'm obviously pleased that they won last night but it was a hollow victory. This result was always on the cards seeing that Andersen and Robson were never going to be there and King and Garrity were going to be severely restricted if they rode given their respective injuries. I witnessed Danny's crash at Somerset on Tuesday and it was a really big impact and as he couldn't complete his rides on Wednesday and didn't ride on Thursday was it any surprise he only managed a point last night? Similarly with Garrity once he was kept in hospital overnight how could anyone expect him to be in a position to ride competitively if he'd appeared last night? Given the importance of this meeting to Coventry surely action should have been taken earlier to replace both riders? Finally, its obvious from the postings on this thread many fans (including myself) were annoyed at the lack of any announcement on the website despite being told there would be 'full team news to follow on Friday'. Any announcement would have been better than none even if it was just to say' Garrity and King have failed fitness tests and the management are trying to draft in replacements'. I think that simple act would have alleviated a lot of the frustration from last night as at least people could have made an informed choice as to whether they would attend or not. What the Bees management ended up with was a lot of disgruntled supporters feeling they'd been cheated out of witnessing a competitive night's racing. Its called having respect for your paying public. Honourable mention for Bomber; sounds like he rode his socks off and despite what some have said, seems like Walasek put up a decent show for Hansi who I understand has been well below par recently. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 As a Swindon fan I'm obviously pleased that they won last night but it was a hollow victory. This result was always on the cards seeing that Andersen and Robson were never going to be there and King and Garrity were going to be severely restricted if they rode given their respective injuries. I witnessed Danny's crash at Somerset on Tuesday and it was a really big impact and as he couldn't complete his rides on Wednesday and didn't ride on Thursday was it any surprise he only managed a point last night? Similarly with Garrity once he was kept in hospital overnight how could anyone expect him to be in a position to ride competitively if he'd appeared last night? Given the importance of this meeting to Coventry surely action should have been taken earlier to replace both riders? Finally, its obvious from the postings on this thread many fans (including myself) were annoyed at the lack of any announcement on the website despite being told there would be 'full team news to follow on Friday'. Any announcement would have been better than none even if it was just to say' Garrity and King have failed fitness tests and the management are trying to draft in replacements'. I think that simple act would have alleviated a lot of the frustration from last night as at least people could have made an informed choice as to whether they would attend or not. What the Bees management ended up with was a lot of disgruntled supporters feeling they'd been cheated out of witnessing a competitive night's racing. Its called having respect for your paying public. Honourable mention for Bomber; sounds like he rode his socks off and despite what some have said, seems like Walasek put up a decent show for Hansi who I understand has been well below par recently. Very good post 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Neither is the case, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story..... Come on Neil, you must see how it looks like? It feels like the promotion have given up and in turn makes supporters feel like giving up this season too. If you make a change or 2 then the fans will feel upbeat again. I don't think fans are asking much. Just look at what it's done for Swindon. Fans just want to see a successful club and season. Edited August 22, 2015 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Neither is the case, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story..... So you can get on this forum then!!! Pity you couldn't find five minutes yesterday afternoon to let us all know what the team line ups were. After all it is just a basic requirement, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Before the internet era, it was a trick of the trade for promoters to keep the line ups under wrap, especially when there were riders missing. These days there are very few secrets in speedway, with all of the different communication methods available to fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Before the internet era, it was a trick of the trade for promoters to keep the line ups under wrap, especially when there were riders missing. These days there are very few secrets in speedway, with all of the different communication methods available to fans. I don't think it's got much better to be honest as clubs don't use modern media enough to keep fans informed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 By this time next week you'll know if changes are in the pipeline. As others have said, the club are not going to say anything until any change is signed and sealed. However, none of that excuses the silence from the club yesterday. Even a press release that they were struggling to get adequate replacements would have sufficed. It really does give the impression that they have no regard whatsoever for the fans. It may be that they think that disclosing they are putting out a below par team may affect the crowd numbers. I can assure them that finding that out at the stadium has a much greater long term affect. None of us like to feel we have been conned, particularly by those to whom we give our hard earned cash and support. It's time that all clubs realised that treating supporters as if they are of no consequence is as mad as burning £20 notes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I don't think it's got much better to be honest as clubs don't use modern media enough to keep fans informed. They know how to use it when they think it would be advantageous to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) We have simply been out classed tonight by a better team. After the season we have had, it was Sad to see people leaving at the interval, very disappointed and looking deflated Two questions 1. Do those who said it was a silly idea when I suggested replacing Robson with Summers still think that? 2. Does Watson & co still think we don't need to strengthen at no 2? All in all that was the worst bees performance I have seen in a long while and without a change and improvement in form, we will just be making up the numbers. Well done to Danny Ayres who put up a good fight. Really concerning watching Sarjeant as he looks a shadow of the rider he was last season. Fickle fans. Pot Hunters.. Mind ive been told the local Flower shop sell good quality pots.. You had half a team, what do they expect.. Edited August 22, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 They know how to use it when they think it would be advantageous to them. Yes when they wanted 3K to help with their fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yes when they wanted 3K to help with their fine. They brought those fines on themselves, they could have just failed to make the 2 minute warning until all options had been exhausted, but they chose to voice their dissapproval verbally, and opened themselves and their riders up to needless fines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) I'm hearing Mick Horton claimed to have contacted a recently retiree draft rider in an effort to replace Jason last night. Fair to assume that's Lewis Blackbird yes? The same Lewis Blackbird who if he had a change of heart would have been resign for his own team Peterborough. And this is the man we're relying on to make team changes. Edited August 22, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 They brought those fines on themselves, they could have just failed to make the 2 minute warning until all options had been exhausted, but they chose to voice their dissapproval verbally, and opened themselves and their riders up to needless fines. those fines were ridiculous , the meeting official clearly didnt do his job properly and take into effect riders concerns . as kylmakorpi said 'its my head my back my legs that are on the line here' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 those fines were ridiculous , the meeting official clearly didnt do his job properly and take into effect riders concerns . as kylmakorpi said 'its my head my back my legs that are on the line here' Exactly, but If he just feined bike trouble he wouldn't have been fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 those fines were ridiculous , the meeting official clearly didnt do his job properly and take into effect riders concerns . as kylmakorpi said 'its my head my back my legs that are on the line here' I agree the fines were ridiculous - they should have been higher! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) I don't always feel compassion for Coventry fans but in this case i feel for them, the management seemingly doing nothing they can't even inform the fans of the team prior to the meeting and Watson comes on here moaning that the fans don't understand what goes on, well Mr Watson shock horror if you tell them nothing what are they expected to think, that there is a miracle on the horizon or that nothing is happening so nothing to tell. I was always told you should keep your customers informed. Whatever some may think of him Matt Ford is usually very good at keeping his paying public informed. Edited August 22, 2015 by foreverblue 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I'm hearing Mick Horton claimed to have contacted a recently retiree draft rider in an effort to replace Jason last night. Fair to assume that's Lewis Blackbird yes? The same Lewis Blackbird who if he had a change of heart would have been resign for his own team Peterborough. And this is the man we're relying on to make team changes. Desperate obviously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFE Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Every now and again Mick and Neil seem to have the knack of seriously peeing off the Coventry fans. It is obvious that the team was not announced on the website was to ensure crowd levels were unaffected by their depleted team, you could argue that the fans were being conned. I fully accept the problems getting guest riders, but this problem is the result of a lack of activity after Robbo was injured, Rossiter signing Summers was a master stroke with 2 matches at Brandon to come, full credit to him, think it will backfire heavily on the Bees, especially as we had the same opportunity but sat on our hands. Our season is now almost certainly going to fizzle out spectacularly, with the Bees and the Storm both failing at the crucial point of the season, to spark any excitement or imagination with the fans with the sole exception of Jason Garrity who has been brilliant to watch, and such a pity he has been injured. This really is a poor sport now, failing for years, with a total lack of joined up thinking from the BSPA and individual promoters, Poole and Swindon excepted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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