TheScotsman Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Was someone having a pop at Garrity last night as the cameras were on him walking down the pits when excluded and all I heard is he was shouting to them I am a man or something like that he got in the face of more than one person walking through the pits. The guy is an idiot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Was someone having a pop at Garrity last night as the cameras were on him walking down the pits when excluded and all I heard is he was shouting to them I am a man or something like that Yes, report on Twitter by several people that king's Lynn fans were swearing and shouting abuse at him. One said he was gonna knock him out. That might be the one he was shouting back at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) Edited August 20, 2015 by heathen chemistry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Yes, report on Twitter by several people that king's Lynn fans were swearing and shouting abuse at him. One said he was gonna knock him out. That might be the one he was shouting back at. before heat 15 garrity said to Horton "I'll drop everyone of them". Not really the behaviour of a professional sportsman is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Boo hoo, Garrity shouting at a couple of toothless simpletons on the first bend at Saddlebore Road. Hardly the end of the world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And people complain there are no characters left. Say what you like about Jason, never a dull moment when he's around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm gonna have a go at what I think may have been the referees logic and it kind of makes sense. Referee deemed Sarjeant had jumped the start but hadn't gained an advantage as he's 15m back. Garrity causes a crash on 1st turn and as the cause of the stoppage is excluded. As Sarjeant had jumped the start and Garrity now excluded Sarjeant has gained an advantage from his 2nd offence so also gets excluded. As I said, that could be the thought process of the referee and it does make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) And it was deliberate I'm gonna have a go at what I think may have been the referees logic and it kind of makes sense. Referee deemed Sarjeant had jumped the start but hadn't gained an advantage as he's 15m back. Garrity causes a crash on 1st turn and as the cause of the stoppage is excluded. As Sarjeant had jumped the start and Garrity now excluded Sarjeant has gained an advantage from his 2nd offence so also gets excluded. As I said, that could be the thought process of the referee and it does make sense. Referee----- Thought process ? what you on. I'll have some:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And it was deliberate Really? How do you know it was deliberate? Or are you stating an opinion? Big difference between facts and you stating your opinion you know 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFastTurnLeft Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) You've clearly not been there on a Christina Turnbull night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And people complain there are no characters left. Say what you like about Jason, never a dull moment when he's around! Hmm, don't we know it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Is there a referees report per match,where a ref has to say what actions he takes during heats? Yes there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , seems conspiracy theorists would say its a plan to get poole finish top wonder if it was ronnie russell that had a word with the ref and said sarj moved? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 There's an interesting slow mo video going around from behind Sarj in heat 12. In it, you can see that Sarj has not moved until the tapes start going up. However, it is also clear that he has started moving when the tapes are still at wheel height for the other 3 riders who are still motionless. Therefore, it would appear that he has gained a small advantage over the others. Maybe the ref had access to this angle / speed. I will try and post it on here but don't hold your breath, I'm not very technical! https://mobile.twitter.com/keithski24/status/634111717501444096 Sarjeant definitely anticipated the start, as you need to take into account his reaction time, which would've been an impossible zero in this instance Personally, although I find it annoying, I'm all in favour of referees re-running a race when a rider anticipates or rolls at the start If a rider has tough opponents or a tough gate position, then the risk is minimal. If ignored, those who play fair or have more to lose are penalised Reckon referees should give a warning for a 1st offence & 15m for the second. I find it annoying when they re-run an unsatisfactory start and don't warn anyone: inevitably the same rider will try it again at some point during the meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , seems conspiracy theorists would say its a plan to get poole finish top wonder if it was ronnie russell that had a word with the ref and said sarj moved? What the actual f*** is this about? This has got to be the most ridiculous post I have ever seen both in content and presentation. It's 5.30 in the morning when I would usually be grumpy as hell but I'm actually laughing at this. Deary me. Ok it's a bit later now, I'm awake and ready to add a bit more! Q. How is having Ronnie Allen refereeing the same as having mourinho's brother ref a Manc game? Don't get that at all. How on earth would that be all 4 back, Garrity cleaned him out! Exclusion all day long. I'm happy to agree with you about sarj to an extent, he shouldn't have been excluded. You're last 2 comments are....well....pathetic to be honest. Cov took a spanking against a decent KL side, a few things went against them (Harris coming off when nicely placed and Hans fencing his own rider) but that's speedway. How Poole even came into this thread is beyond me 🙈🙉🙊 Edited August 21, 2015 by Rob VDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 And it was deliberate Really? How do you know it was deliberate? Or are you stating an opinion? Big difference between facts and you stating your opinion you know Have another watch of the video and tell me it's not . Middlo knew the only way they had a chance was to take Bomber out . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Have another watch of the video and tell me it's not . Middlo knew the only way they had a chance was to take Bomber out . Jeez you actually believe this don't you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Have another watch of the video and tell me it's not . Middlo knew the only way they had a chance was to take Bomber out .Still no idea how Holder wasn't excluded. Then again look at who the ref was then - Peter Clarke!! Somehow he's always there in the Poole and Coventry contraversy Edited August 21, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 What the actual f*** is this about? This has got to be the most ridiculous post I have ever seen both in content and presentation. It's 5.30 in the morning when I would usually be grumpy as hell but I'm actually laughing at this. Deary me. Ok it's a bit later now, I'm awake and ready to add a bit more! Q. How is having Ronnie Allen refereeing the same as having mourinho's brother ref a Manc game? Don't get that at all. How on earth would that be all 4 back, Garrity cleaned him out! Exclusion all day long. I'm happy to agree with you about sarj to an extent, he shouldn't have been excluded. You're last 2 comments are....well....pathetic to be honest. Cov took a spanking against a decent KL side, a few things went against them (Harris coming off when nicely placed and Hans fencing his own rider) but that's speedway. How Poole even came into this thread is beyond me Do you not know ronnie allen (referee) is norrie allen (leicester manager) brother? as for garrity exclusion all day long, look at the 2010 final when chris harris is cleaned out by holder and gets run over by bridger, that was all four back yet was much more contact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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