van wolfswinkel Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Followed the Comets in 2004/5 in the days of Stoney Steady Wrighty Kauko Rusty Woodifield Collins Tacey etc., when I lived in Cumbria. Now living in Swindon so lost touch with events at Derwent Park. Loved the atmosphere on a Saturday night in the main stand, and the Premier League Fours nights with crowds of 2500. Remember the 3 streakers!!!.Read recently crowds have plummeted from 1200 10 years ago to about 800, and they're struggling... why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 sadly the crowds are less than 800 who knows the real reasons maybe its just run out of steam but things were not helped when keith denham took over and started to ban people for very little the atmosphere was lost then it started to come back a little but sadly this year there hasnt been much to shout about the whole british speedway has lost something maybe its financial or maybe they need to have a serious look at the team building structure to get evrything competative enough to entertain the fans to a level where people struggle to stay away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) sadly the crowds are less than 800 who knows the real reasons maybe its just run out of steam but things were not helped when keith denham took over and started to ban people for very little the atmosphere was lost then it started to come back a little but sadly this year there hasnt been much to shout about the whole british speedway has lost something maybe its financial or maybe they need to have a serious look at the team building structure to get evrything competative enough to entertain the fans to a level where people struggle to stay away Bloody ell "Marra" cant see them surviving on those crowds. Were always one of the best supported teams in the PL. Swindon's crowds have dropped in the last 10 years from 1700-1800 to about 1200, but the arrival of Darcy Ward should encourage a few back. The loss of Leigh Adams here, and Stoney the legend, and Steady up there could have led to a decrease. Kildemand started up at DP then ended up at Swindon, and Steady, the two Wrighty's(pity James has gone backwards but young Charlie is doing well for the Robins)and Howarth have ridden for both clubs. Remember when Steady beat Adams to win the Stoney testimonial. The Comets always threaten to be title contenders but never quite manage it. Hull pipped them in 2004, and the battles between Zagar of Reading and Steady. That got me back into speedway after a 30-year break at Swindon from the 70s! Remember the characters up at Worky, Mystic Mel(now deceased), and the guy who stood at the front of the seats who was murdered in the massacre. Gromet the Comet! Why have fans been banned? Good luck for the future, still have rellies in Aspatria so may visit DP again one day...good memories. Edited August 14, 2015 by haydon hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I believe also that a lot of fans did not return after the floods of 2009, there was no replacement road bridge for the start of the 2010 season, I think people just got out of the habit and perhaps found something else to do. There has been some good meetings recently too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 The reality is that most clubs are experiencing reduced numbers at Speedway for different reasons (cost/rules/stadia/promotion of the sport or many other forms of entertainment available) im not sure but to blame Keith Denham is laughable when the man put is heart soul and money in to keeping Workington Speedway alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamlad Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 If and hopefully if Worky run next year one person that should stand down is Tony Jackson, might be a nice guy but useless as a Team manager . Workington have won nothing since he took the helm , top teams on paper , far too soft , wrong decisions. Football teams losing get shot of the manager and its time for a change here too !!!!! Giving Bellego 5 rides at Newcastle after scoring a point, laughable ........Nice marra but doesn't cut the chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 If and hopefully if Worky run next year one person that should stand down is Tony Jackson, might be a nice guy but useless as a Team manager . Workington have won nothing since he took the helm , top teams on paper , far too soft , wrong decisions. Football teams losing get shot of the manager and its time for a change here too !!!!! Giving Bellego 5 rides at Newcastle after scoring a point, laughable ........Nice marra but doesn't cut the chase I wish we had 800 at Berwick every week, you are luckier than you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgun Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree with Jam lad there need to be changes if we run next year . Need some new riders that will be able to get points away from home then we might win something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree with Jam lad there need to be changes if we run next year . Need some new riders that will be able to get points away from home then we might win somethingWorkington have had some good teams on paper in recent seasons but on track it hasn't happened.Like Berwick most riders can ride Workington, as with teams with big tracks they find small tracks more difficult and is not the case vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Workington have had some good teams on paper in recent seasons but on track it hasn't happened.Like Berwick most riders can ride Workington, as with teams with big tracks they find small tracks more difficult and is not the case vice versa.  That's something we could always be proud of, our management can, and have, put some good sides together on paper, unfortunately, over the last few seasons, that's exactly where the form has stayed?  Never seem quite able to get that winning mix of big track/small track riders who can pull it out of the fire when we need it most, this year, through one thing and another, the wheels have been as straight as a die at home, but all over the place everywhere else?  Agree also with jamlad/baz, need wholesale changes if we manage to keep going next time inc Jacko, decent bloke by all accounts but I'm afraid it's too much carrot not enough stick with him, a bit of ruthlessness and he'd be alright?  I wish we had 800 at Berwick every week, you are luckier than you think  I wish we had 800 at DP every week, where did that figure come from TTP, think it's more like 5/600 thesedays unless, the other 2/300 were in the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 That's something we could always be proud of, our management can, and have, put some good sides together on paper, unfortunately, over the last few seasons, that's exactly where the form has stayed?  Never seem quite able to get that winning mix of big track/small track riders who can pull it out of the fire when we need it most, this year, through one thing and another, the wheels have been as straight as a die at home, but all over the place everywhere else?  Agree also with jamlad/baz, need wholesale changes if we manage to keep going next time inc Jacko, decent bloke by all accounts but I'm afraid it's too much carrot not enough stick with him, a bit of ruthlessness and he'd be alright?    I wish we had 800 at DP every week, where did that figure come from TTP, think it's more like 5/600 thesedays unless, the other 2/300 were in the bar? Not at £3 a pint they won't be That's something we could always be proud of, our management can, and have, put some good sides together on paper, unfortunately, over the last few seasons, that's exactly where the form has stayed?  Never seem quite able to get that winning mix of big track/small track riders who can pull it out of the fire when we need it most, this year, through one thing and another, the wheels have been as straight as a die at home, but all over the place everywhere else?  Agree also with jamlad/baz, need wholesale changes if we manage to keep going next time inc Jacko, decent bloke by all accounts but I'm afraid it's too much carrot not enough stick with him, a bit of ruthlessness and he'd be alright?    I wish we had 800 at DP every week, where did that figure come from TTP, think it's more like 5/600 thesedays unless, the other 2/300 were in the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCookster Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Get Dave Tattum to take over the promotion ... he'll have the crowd figures down to a couple of hundred in no time :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I fear the 600 crowd figures are about right although for my last visit - against Peterborough - it was a lot higher, with the welcome sight of cars parked on the green outside.  Why that is the case I am not so sure. True, the teams haven't lived up to expectation in the last few seasons but they have still been pretty decent, the racing is good and the presentation equally so. Entry, programme and car parking is the cheapest in the PL (taking into account that you can park safely outside) - £15 (compare that to Edinburgh's £21.50). The promotion have definitely tried hard to make speedway a paying success.  Fingers crossed that things can be turned round. Edited August 15, 2015 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The thing is do the promotors really promote it right these days looking at Glasgow now changed days since last year every social media sight has info regards results next matches riders they are even on trip adviser it needs to be put out there for people to see and there attendances have about tripled and there 3 hospitality cabins are pretty much full every week it needs to be marketed right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Workington have had some good teams on paper in recent seasons but on track it hasn't happened.Like Berwick most riders can ride Workington, as with teams with big tracks they find small tracks more difficult and is not the case vice versa. Â How much of that is down to having the track super slick every week, making it easy for everyone to ride. Then when you head on your travels anything more than a couple of grains of shale sends the Worky riders into meltdown as its not what they are used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Remember the 3 streakers!!!. 2004, my first visit to Derwent Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 2004, my first visit to Derwent ParkWere you one of them then Shads or would it have been a bit nippy around the nicky nacky noos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 How much of that is down to having the track super slick every week, making it easy for everyone to ride. Then when you head on your travels anything more than a couple of grains of shale sends the Worky riders into meltdown as its not what they are used to.Have to agree regarding track conditions,deep tracks are a thing of the past at most venues nowadays,technology has taken over and a lot riders can't handle dirt on tracks.Berwick certainly have no home advantage nowadays but the riders seem to want it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Were you one of them then Shads or would it have been a bit nippy around the nicky nacky noos Nah, I was sober Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Have to agree regarding track conditions,deep tracks are a thing of the past at most venues nowadays,technology has taken over and a lot riders can't handle dirt on tracks.Berwick certainly have no home advantage nowadays but the riders seem to want it that way. That's one of the main reasons why Speedway is suffering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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