SCB Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXH4yEHmqA example of how nicki carnt take being beaten fairly in a hard race!!! The thing is, thats the meeting I realised I loved to hate Nicki. After that we had Kennett vs Nicki in heat 13 two heats later and they they had a great race with a little more finger wagging and waving of hand bags, lots of booing and jeering. Then he come out in heat 15 and blitzed the Coventry boys by half a lap, they announced him as the winner and the crowd went back with cheers. That day, Nicki Pedersen entertained us and pretty much every one there appreciated it. For all his faults (and that list is a bloody long one!) he evokes emotion one way or the other at pretty much every meeting. Even when he's the innocent party you get arguments as people claim he deserves it etc. We'd not get that if he was boring like Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I was recently reading an interview with one of Fundins former Norwich team mates -I can't remember which one but might have been Gordon McGregor- but anyway whoever it was said exactly the same thing about Fundin. However, to relate the Fundin -Briggs rivalry to Hancock and Pedesrsen , on Barry's DVD he tells of an incident on track at Norwich that spilled over into the pits , and Fundin came over to have go at him and Brigho had to push him off . Bad feeling between the pair of them at the time but by the end of the evening Fundin came over and said he was staying the night in England and could he stay at Barry's mothers house,. Briggo said of course he could and they both drove down to London together. The dispute was forgotten about , no Facebook, no public comments, everything smoothed over. Maybe some of the present "stars" coukd learn a thing or two from the hard men of past eras. Maybe if the Authorities weren't so quick to take sides and start wielding the big stick more of todays disputes would get settled in a similar manner 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Some Posters should note this (already elsewhere on the BSF) -- The Link is a warning about the tone of Posts on Facebook. Does it also apply - and how far - in relation to debate forums like the BSF and other groups? I know this relates to Australia but am certain there may be similarties in British law. http://www.geelongad...5-1227479416596 I'm sure a few posters on here are absolutely quivering in their boots.....or on the other hand they could use the SCB method and say 'Go on then sue me.' .........FAST GATER....... and there is no arguing that they put buns on seats. Thank goodness I've always taken my own chair to sit on. Edited August 13, 2015 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm personally very glad that the riders are now being vocal over NP, their livelihood is in danger when racing against him. Your crusade/vendetta against Nicki P would have slightly more credibility if you made similar remarks about Kildemand and Doyle. Both of whom having the same riding style and possibly cause more riders to "dismount" than Nicki P. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I think you are wrong, it isn't "the riders", it's just Greg, Holder, Tai and Darcy. Two aussies, a brit and a Yankee. Riders who happens to have the same sponsor, the same sponsor that also is the main sponsors for the SGP ans SWC series. To be fair, Tai has distanced himself from the situation this year as far as I am aware and not got involved in the 'twitter' spats. Perhaps that is part of what is riling Greg, Tai doesn't appear to be following him like a lackey anymore and is just concentrating on his own thing and as a result leaving Greg trailing. Gregs mind games with his nearest rivals aren't working on Tai anymore. Meanwhile, the reaction on facebook is priceless... here are some gems! "Follow the $$$ Dickys got $ and I recall he's Swedish. Gee what Co inky dinky. That little a**hole WILL EVENTUALLY KILL SOMEONE ! Then what ?" "that is what happens when your parents can buy the governing board. The only way the riders can fight this is by a boycott. Find another organization or start your own you know damn well that this organization has been bought and paid for. Also nothing wrong with a good old ass kicking blanket party for miss nicki" "This just sucks!! Like a true champion.... Greg handles this situation w/ diplomacy" "I am so sick of Pederson, sorry but he a looser. The sport would be so much better off without him. Rant over!" "So hard to beleive. NP is a punk. He needs to be stopped and NOW! Hats off to Grin to being a stand up human being and great rider! USA USA USA." "He's a spoiled brat and a bully and I wish someone would just kick his ass beat him like the little b***h that he is" "we have to stay as politically correct as greg." Just a small sample of the hysterical comments, mainly from Americans. The majority of them calling for violent acts against Pedersen too. Edited August 13, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 deary me Yet she fawns over Darcy Ward... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I was recently reading an interview with one of Fundins former Norwich team mates -I can't remember which one but might have been Gordon McGregor- but anyway whoever it was said exactly the same thing about Fundin. However, to relate the Fundin -Briggs rivalry to Hancock and Pedesrsen , on Barry's DVD he tells of an incident on track at Norwich that spilled over into the pits , and Fundin came over to have go at him and Brigho had to push him off . Bad feeling between the pair of them at the time but by the end of the evening Fundin came over and said he was staying the night in England and could he stay at Barry's mothers house,. Briggo said of course he could and they both drove down to London together. The dispute was forgotten about , no Facebook, no public comments, everything smoothed over. Maybe some of the present "stars" coukd learn a thing or two from the hard men of past eras. In my book mentioned above, I also asked Ove for his view on Briiggo. This is what he said, "I had a bigger rivalry with Barry than Ronnie. I was more worried about being in front of Barry than Ronnie, because you could never be sure what Barry would do. Ronnie was more of a gentleman on the track.....Although we were rivals on the track I was very friendly off the track with both of them, and although Barry was probably my biggest rival, his wife would stay with my wife during the winter season." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 To be fair, Tai has distanced himself from the situation this year as far as I am aware and not got involved in the 'twitter' spats. Perhaps that is part of what is riling Greg, Tai doesn't appear to be following him like a lackey anymore and is just concentrating on his own thing and as a result leaving Greg trailing. Gregs mind games with his nearest rivals aren't working on Tai anymore. Meanwhile, the reaction on facebook is priceless... here are some gems! "Follow the $$$ Dickys got $ and I recall he's Swedish. Gee what Co inky dinky. That little a**hole WILL EVENTUALLY KILL SOMEONE ! Then what ?" "that is what happens when your parents can buy the governing board. The only way the riders can fight this is by a boycott. Find another organization or start your own you know damn well that this organization has been bought and paid for. Also nothing wrong with a good old ass kicking blanket party for miss nicki" "This just sucks!! Like a true champion.... Greg handles this situation w/ diplomacy" "I am so sick of Pederson, sorry but he a looser. The sport would be so much better off without him. Rant over!" "So hard to beleive. NP is a punk. He needs to be stopped and NOW! Hats off to Grin to being a stand up human being and great rider! USA USA USA." "He's a spoiled brat and a bully and I wish someone would just kick his ass beat him like the little b***h that he is" "we have to stay as politically correct as greg." Just a small sample of the hysterical comments, mainly from Americans. The majority of them calling for violent acts against Pedersen too. I lifted my block on this character temporarily out of curiosity. It is tempting to suggest that the poster's poison comes largely from the point of view of a Wolves fan hating the Cradley hero. Cue the self-serving waffle...... Block replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 In my book mentioned above, I also asked Ove for his view on Briiggo. This is what he said, "I had a bigger rivalry with Barry than Ronnie. I was more worried about being in front of Barry than Ronnie, because you could never be sure what Barry would do. Ronnie was more of a gentleman on the track.....Although we were rivals on the track I was very friendly off the track with both of them, and although Barry was probably my biggest rival, his wife would stay with my wife during the winter season." I suppose that sums up why they were and still are such great characters in the sports history and I suppose the sort of characters that people say are missing these days. It was before my time but I seem to recall reading at one of the world finals they finished joint top on points and had a run off for the title ( imagine the tension in that) . At one stage they locked handlebars and both went under the fence . Fundin was apparently trapped there but Briggo got up and won the race and the title . Can you verify that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I lifted my block on this character temporarily out of curiosity. It is tempting to suggest that the poster's poison comes largely from the point of view of a Wolves fan hating the Cradley hero. Cue the self-serving waffle...... Block replaced. If you cared to read the thread, rather than just post a personal attack, you will see that the vast majority of people on the thread echo my views. It's also apparent that SVEMO echo my views as well, hence them banning Hancock for 10 days. Perhaps you might wish to add something constructive to the thread yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 To be fair, Tai has distanced himself from the situation this year as far as I am aware and not got involved in the 'twitter' spats. Perhaps that is part of what is riling Greg, Tai doesn't appear to be following him like a lackey anymore and is just concentrating on his own thing and as a result leaving Greg trailing. Gregs mind games with his nearest rivals aren't working on Tai anymore. Meanwhile, the reaction on facebook is priceless... here are some gems! "Follow the $$$ Dickys got $ and I recall he's Swedish. Gee what Co inky dinky. That little a**hole WILL EVENTUALLY KILL SOMEONE ! Then what ?" "that is what happens when your parents can buy the governing board. The only way the riders can fight this is by a boycott. Find another organization or start your own you know damn well that this organization has been bought and paid for. Also nothing wrong with a good old ass kicking blanket party for miss nicki" "This just sucks!! Like a true champion.... Greg handles this situation w/ diplomacy" "I am so sick of Pederson, sorry but he a looser. The sport would be so much better off without him. Rant over!" "So hard to beleive. NP is a punk. He needs to be stopped and NOW! Hats off to Grin to being a stand up human being and great rider! USA USA USA." "He's a spoiled brat and a bully and I wish someone would just kick his ass beat him like the little b***h that he is" "we have to stay as politically correct as greg." Just a small sample of the hysterical comments, mainly from Americans. The majority of them calling for violent acts against Pedersen too. I love the people having a go at Nicki for attacking the Torun team manager on the same thread they are justifying Greg hitting Nicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I love the people having a go at Nicki for attacking the Torun team manager on the same thread they are justifying Greg hitting Nicki Nicki needs to man up and go for the wrestling moves such as Greg's mega-clothesline, instead of some silly little kick. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nicki needs to man up and go for the wrestling moves such as Greg's mega-clothesline, instead of some silly little kick. All the best Rob It wasn't a mega-clothesline though was it.. folk miss this, the idea of attacking someone is not to end up flat on your own back with the other guy on top of you at the end of it! Bit of a fail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 It wasn't a mega-clothesline though was it.. folk miss this, the idea of attacking someone is not to end up flat on your own back with the other guy on top of you at the end of it! Bit of a fail! I admit Greg 'The Hitman' Hancock does need a little further training on how to follow through after the initial move, but hey, no-one's perfect. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I suppose that sums up why they were and still are such great characters in the sports history and I suppose the sort of characters that people say are missing these days. It was before my time but I seem to recall reading at one of the world finals they finished joint top on points and had a run off for the title ( imagine the tension in that) . At one stage they locked handlebars and both went under the fence . Fundin was apparently trapped there but Briggo got up and won the race and the title . Can you verify that?I can remember Briggo commentating on the 82 final,and he said he had a similar incident with Ove that Penhall had with Carter.But sport was brutal and sometimes things go for you sometimes it does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I admit Greg 'The Hitman' Hancock does need a little further training on how to follow through after the initial move, but hey, no-one's perfect. All the best Rob Yep, needs to work on his 'Excellence of Execution'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I suppose that sums up why they were and still are such great characters in the sports history and I suppose the sort of characters that people say are missing these days. It was before my time but I seem to recall reading at one of the world finals they finished joint top on points and had a run off for the title ( imagine the tension in that) . At one stage they locked handlebars and both went under the fence . Fundin was apparently trapped there but Briggo got up and won the race and the title . Can you verify that? Run-off for 1957 World title, although Briggo didn't fall in the incident, just Fundin. Fundin led from tapes, Briggo bustled past, Fundin came down after contact, race continued and Briggo became champion for the first time. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Run-off for 1957 World title, although Briggo didn't fall in the incident, just Fundin. Fundin led from tapes, Briggo bustled past, Fundin came down after contact, race continued and Briggo became champion for the first time. All the best Rob Thanks Rob, Swap Briggo for NP and swap Fundin for Greg, Holder Tai or whoever and one can imagine the furore if that happened in a deciding race for the title in this in this day and age ! ! ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) i dont believe that back in the day racing was harder or dirtier at all the bikes were slower , the tracks had more shale on which helped when riders were pushed out wide , basic equipment , thick leathers which gave more protection.. things have changed, bikes are much faster which mean injuries are more likely, tracks are slicker meaning riders just skate like on ice into the fences without scrubbing much speed off,riders wear kevlars which offer little protection, just look over the past years the serious injuries go back to the 60's how many of the top riders had serious career ending injuries? mauger, olsen , briggs , fundin, and many more of the top stars were rarely injured and had long careers in todays times teams are having r/r and guests almost every match due to riders being out injured that wasnt happening no where near as often in the 60's even thou there was many more teams and many more riders ..... quik look at tonights match ay king lynn , between the 2 teams the line up includes 6 guests and an r/r that never happened back in the 60's , when you think there was 20 odd british league teams and how many national league teams injuries should have been more prolific but they wasn't, Edited August 13, 2015 by heathen chemistry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 i dont believe that back in the day racing was harder or dirtier at all the bikes were slower , the tracks had more shale on which helped when riders were pushed out wide , basic equipment , thick leathers which gave more protection.. things have changed, bikes are much faster which mean injuries are more likely, tracks are slicker meaning riders just skate like on ice into the fences without scrubbing much speed off,riders wear kevlars which offer little protection, just look over the past years the serious injuries go back to the 60's how many of the top riders had serious career ending injuries? mauger, olsen , briggs , fundin, and many more of the top stars were rarely injured and had long careers in todays times teams are having r/r and guests almost every match due to riders being out injured that wasnt happening no where near as often in the 60's even thou there was many more teams and many more riders ..... The other side of the coin is that some of the serious injuries in the past would have been fatalities today. Partly because of medical advances and partly because of safety standards. Alan Wilkinson for example is one who would almost certainly have walked away from the crash that crippled him if airfences were around in the 70's. There are many other examples.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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