Admission Prices At Tracks Sweden V Britain

[mike1944]

Looking at a number of Swedish speedway meetings on TV the crowds they look as if the venues are far better supported than a number of tracks here. I just wondered if anyone knew what they charged for admission compared to our Elite League tracks bearing in mind that any admission charge must also be compared to income and salaries in Sweden compared to Britain.

[racers and royals]

Looking at a number of Swedish speedway meetings on TV the crowds they look as if the venues are far better supported than a number of tracks here. I just wondered if anyone knew what they charged for admission compared to our Elite League tracks bearing in mind that any admission charge must also be compared to income and salaries in Sweden compared to Britain.

Ghostwalker-our Swedish correspondant will be able to give you a better answer than me, however these are prices at Elite Vetlanda for the upcoming home match with Dackarna.

TICKETS:

Adult, from 18 years: 170 SEK

Youth, 16-17 years: SEK 50

Children up to 15 years: Free admission

Grandstand: +40 SEK

Program: 30 SEK

 

As a rough guide it`s approx. 13 SEK to the £

 

As a comparison these are Piraterna prices

youth -12/15 50 SEK

Adult 170 SEK

OAP 140 SEK

Family ticket 2 adults 2 children 13/17 300 SEK

Edited August 12, 2015 by racers and royals

[RobMcCaffery]

You also have to factor in the high cost of living in Sweden so in real terms that SEK 170/GBP 13.70 admission charge is relatively even cheaper for a Swede than for us.

[rusky]

You also have to factor in the high cost of living in Sweden so in real terms that SEK 170/GBP 13.70 admission charge is relatively even cheaper for a Swede than for us.

And of course its once a fortnight ( but regular), so over a season becomes cheaper still

[BWitcher]

And of course its once a fortnight ( but regular), so over a season becomes cheaper still

 

Which is how it should be here in the top flight, once a fortnight.

 

But we constantly get people complaining they don't have matches every week, whilst at the same time complaining they can't afford to go every week.......

[robert72]

And of course its once a fortnight ( but regular), so over a season becomes cheaper still

Plus they watch the top riders plus a large number of homegrown riders.

Edited August 12, 2015 by robert72

[SCB]

Plus they watch the top riders plus a large number of homegrown riders.

Who are all these Swedish home grown riders? I bet the EL has more Brits than the Swedish League has Swedes!

[arnieg]

Who are all these Swedish home grown riders? I bet the EL has more Brits than the Swedish League has Swedes!

Quite similar actually.

 

There are 24 Brits in EL official line ups (that includes Branford), but 16 of these are the 'fast track' reserves.

 

Sweden has 21 native riders (including Kylmakorpi) who've ridden 50% or more of their teams Elitserien matches.

 

With 8 teams in GB and 7 in Sweden that's 3.00 vs 3.00 per team.

 

There are no Swedes in the top ten Elitserien averages (top 12 if you include Ward and Hampel). Lindback at 11 and Jonsson at 14 are the best Swedes. There are ten Swedes with an average of 6 or more riding regularly in their top league. Peter Karlsson and Kim Nilsson both have sub six point Elitserien averages.

 

[Averages inc bonus from speedwayaktuell]

[SCB]

I'll claim I was talking raw numbers and claim the win But it certainly doesn't suggest the issue with the EL is a lack of British riders.

Edited August 12, 2015 by SCB

[E I Addio]

Looking at a number of Swedish speedway meetings on TV the crowds they look as if the venues are far better supported than a number of tracks here. I just wondered if anyone knew what they charged for admission compared to our Elite League tracks bearing in mind that any admission charge must also be compared to income and salaries in Sweden compared to Britain.

Everything in the Swedish garden is not rosey th,ough. Their attendances are reported to be in decline. Not as much as ours but the decline is running a few years behind Britain,

 

Looking at last weeks Speedwáy Star, Piraterna -v- Indianerna, which included Hancock, Ward ,Holder , Lindback, Iveson, Lindgren, Nicholls and Bech, drew a crowd of 2,667. Not particularly brilliant when you consider the wage bill for that lot. Elsewhere an Allsvenskan League match drew in a mere 481. Certain others drew in crowds no better, and in some cases worse than EL matches.

Edited August 12, 2015 by E I Addio

[RobMcCaffery]

And of course its once a fortnight ( but regular), so over a season becomes cheaper still

 

Not necessarily a great thing considering the fortnights only last four months. Would people here really want a season of 6-8 home meetings? It's about cost per meeting, not per season. After all the cheapest speedway is 0 meetings.

Edited August 13, 2015 by rmc

[waiheke1]

Surely the season is 6- 7 months though a single round comp with 8 teams would just be the 7 home leafuemeetings

I would imagine for many cost per season is as important as cost per meeting.

Suggest clubs could also run a pl or nl side as well if they thought there was sufficient demand.

[Ghostwalker]

Sure the attendance have declined this season but the weather have been bad this season..

Rain have been affecting a vast majority of the rounds which usually scares a good few away.

 

In Elitserien Lejonen are by far worst team but when you look at what team they field it's hardly surprising.

 

7 teams are too few and 10 would ideal but the disadvantage is that the riders can demand a higher pay level due to more competition between the teams for the riders.

 

Then 18 rounds is also tight to fit in during the available months. Especially if you have in mind that you need to be able to find available new days to hold a meeting if it rains off.

Smederna's price info http://ikarossmederna.se/matchpress/entrepriser/

[topsoil]

Where Sweden does seem to have a massive advantage over Britain is that Swedish teams have their own stadiums, none of this being dictated to by landlords when you can run, only having access to the tracks on certain days etc. All Swedish tracks seem to have training tracks.

But it would be interesting if somebody in the know could give us more background. Are these stadiums council owned, do the teams pay rent to the council, is it expensive? Do tracks get to keep all the income from the sale of food and drink within the stadiums? Do teams actively go seeking sponsorship? Are local businesses supportive of teams?

How does all of these matters compare to British tracks? Far more important in my eyes than pure attendance figures, which you will never know in Britain as figures are never released anyway.

[New Science]

 

Which is how it should be here in the top flight, once a fortnight.

 

But we constantly get people complaining they don't have matches every week, whilst at the same time complaining they can't afford to go every week.......

I take it you would be happy with 6 home fixtures a year then as in the Swedish model

[Gemini]

 

 

.........New Science.......I take it you would be happy with 6 home fixtures a year then as in the Swedish model.

 

Being as BWitcher doesn't live in the UK and has only been to one meeting so far this season it would probably suit him fine. On the other hand as a regular supporter I'd hate it, but we are near enough to only having a meeting every other week here anyway.

 

Edited to add the quote as the page has turned over.

Edited August 13, 2015 by Gemini

[Ghostwalker]

Topsoil, most tracks are dedicated speedway tracks and only Gubbängen have another primary use then speedway.

 

Training tracks? I assume you mean the smaller tracks located next to or inside the regular track ?

 

They're not training tracks but 80cc tracks for speedway schools for kids and for youth speedway (85c, micro speedway and mini speedway ).

[topsoil]

Ghostwalker, yes that's what I was meaning the smaller tracks for youth speedway. Would love to see more of these spread out through Britain. One big advantage of having dedicated speedway arenas.

[racers and royals]

Where Sweden does seem to have a massive advantage over Britain is that Swedish teams have their own stadiums, none of this being dictated to by landlords when you can run, only having access to the tracks on certain days etc. All Swedish tracks seem to have training tracks.

But it would be interesting if somebody in the know could give us more background. Are these stadiums council owned, do the teams pay rent to the council, is it expensive? Do tracks get to keep all the income from the sale of food and drink within the stadiums? Do teams actively go seeking sponsorship? Are local businesses supportive of teams?

How does all of these matters compare to British tracks? Far more important in my eyes than pure attendance figures, which you will never know in Britain as figures are never released anyway.

The main difference between Sweden and Britain is that in Sweden the clubs are owned and run by the local community-mainly volunteers I would assume. The local community/town gets behind the team with sponsorship,fund-raising etc. However as Ghostwalker will confirm this hasn`t stopped quite a few Swedish clubs getting into difficulties over finance eg Lejonen,Valsarna,Vargarna and Vastervik to name 4.

[RobMcCaffery]

Where Sweden does seem to have a massive advantage over Britain is that Swedish teams have their own stadiums, none of this being dictated to by landlords when you can run, only having access to the tracks on certain days etc. All Swedish tracks seem to have training tracks.

But it would be interesting if somebody in the know could give us more background. Are these stadiums council owned, do the teams pay rent to the council, is it expensive? Do tracks get to keep all the income from the sale of food and drink within the stadiums? Do teams actively go seeking sponsorship? Are local businesses supportive of teams?

How does all of these matters compare to British tracks? Far more important in my eyes than pure attendance figures, which you will never know in Britain as figures are never released anyway.

It is indeed a completely different set-up and near impossible to compare to the usual British model of a sole promoter renting a stadium commercially.