Nikki Pedersen Red Carded In Polish Match

[OveFundinFan]

Yes, the pass Doyle did on AJ was not only clean but a very brave move.

[BWitcher]

Yes, the pass Doyle did on AJ was not only clean but a very brave move.

 

Agreed, but you can guarantee had Nicki done it, it would be viewed differently.

[speedwaysliders]

 

Nicki didn't barrel into anyone, he continued on his line, Doyle turned into him, after first sticking his leg into him.

Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.

[g13webb]

Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.

 

What utter rubbish you write. I reckon you must be the king member of the hate Pedersen Fan Club. Your explanation stinks of biasness.

 

Having watched this video more than 20 times with no commentary, it is quite clear Pedersen did nothing wrong. The race starts, Doyle getting the drop, and leading into the first corner from the inside gate. Pedersen off gate 4 is behind entering the first bend. But Doyle drifts out wider then he should, leaving space inside to be exploited. Pedersen cuts back cleanly and has terrific drive to catch and pass Doyle way before the 3rd bend. You suggest Pedersen should've waited for a better opportunity to pass but ...Opportunities don't come any better than that. Just because Doyle made the gate doesn't give him the right pick and choice his line. He was caught out and should have excepted that Pedersen had the run on him.

 

If, as you suggest he should have waited , probably we should change the art of the sport and play follow the leader..............

[Guest]

Any views on this comment by Nicki Pedersen?

http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/4366/nicki-stunned-by-red-card

[BWitcher]

Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.

 

What are you talking about??

 

Doyle has every right to come across INTO another rider.. but Nicki doesn't have the right to ride in a straight line??

 

The point is Nicki was in the lead when the contact occurred, so on all counts, you've blown your own argument!

[Fromafar]

Any views on this comment by Nicki Pedersen?

http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/4366/nicki-stunned-by-red-card

Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.

The problem with Doyle turning left early was that Nicki was virtually 3/4 way past him ,he was not in front of Nicki.

[Agrotron]

Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.

 

Hahaha this person is a joker right?

[Mark]

Doyle just did a worse move than Pedersen in the Swedish League..

 

No red card.

[screm]

For those who are defending Mr Doyle will need to see what he`s just done to Linus Eklof in Sweden.

[Dave the Mic]

I have looked at the pics & watched the clip. The pics don't do Doyle's position any favours - he appears to stick his leg out, whilst the clip doesn't do Pedersen's position any favours as he appears to go straight on, when perhaps he should be turning. In his release, he says he was right on the white line, but wasn't. I could see a referee calling that either way & if it was in the first turn, it could have been all 4 back. However if Pedersen was red carded for the crash, that's daft. Difficult to comment on the pit incident as it was probably six & two threes and neither was likely admit to being wrong. Storm in a tea cup really & some of the comments on here toward both riders are a little harsh.

 

Comment regarding Doyle's taking out Eklof is correct, but not relevant, as it is a different type of clash, although I would say that he does that quite a bit - at least twice in GP's I can recall already.

 

About the comment "Doyle being a "pussy" & "pussyway", I would say 2 things. You're joking, right? If you think anyone who races a speedway bike is a pussy, at best you're being disrespectful, at worst downright insulting. Speedway riders are among the bravest sportsmen around. Period.

 

At the same time, Pedersen does seem to want it all his own way. He is the first to dish out hard riding & then defend it as just that - hard but fair racing, but in the Swedish match tonight, he was on the receiving end of two hard but fair pieces of racing & bleated like a child after each, in one race actually retiring having been pushed to the back.

 

The reality is, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Doyle found that out tonight with 2 exclusions, so did Pedersen - very much on the receiving end of some of his own "hard but fair" treatment & didn't like it. Can't have it all ways, Nicki!

Edited August 11, 2015 by Dave the Mic

[Arson fire]

What did he say when he bleated on after the races??

[Ghostwalker]

The reality is, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Doyle found that out tonight with 2 exclusions.

 

Doyle only got excluded for taking Peter K out, the other exclusion was for riding inside the white line.

 

I can agree with that Nicki need to be better at accepting others being hard on him and etc but this doesn't change the impression that he is judged differently.

It also does not change the fact that someone like Greg who are very eager to find an excuse to criticize Nicki, never seem to be bothered when other riders then Nicki is riding too hard.

[Odds On]

lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport.

[Tsunami]

lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport.

Yes, Monster stick with Monster.

[Mark]

lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport.

agree.

[BWitcher]

lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport.

 

Absolutely spot on.

[RPNY]

I would agree that Nicki is getting a rough ride (scuse the pun) on and off track right now however I do believe he's made his bed with all that stuff. In my memory he's had public and on going arguments with Hancock, Woffy, Emil, Hans A, THJ, Gollob, Holder, Zagar and there's probably more who I've forgotten about!

I don't believe there's a Monster monopoly. Magic, Emil, Hampel, they are Red Bull riders they've not been treated badly or had reason for complaint. Nor have any of the other non Monster riders.

I think it's difficult to say Nicki did NOTHING wrong in Poland on Sunday. He knew that was a tight gap he went for and there was a chance of carnage ensuing. It was his right to go for the gap but at the same time he would have know what could of happened..

[Dawkins20]

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I think it's difficult to say Nicki did NOTHING wrong in Poland on Sunday. He knew that was a tight gap he went for and there was a chance of carnage ensuing. It was his right to go for the gap but at the same time he would have know what could of happened..

 

Yes, he should have thought about Doyle sticking his leg out and jumpng off his bike, silly Pedersen... What are you trying to say? Nobody should go for a gap or just Nicki, because he has a "history"?

[RPNY]

Doyle did not jump of did he. There was a collision at about 70 mph. Whether you're a Nicki or not - and I've said he had every right to go for that gap, read above - you cannot say Doyle jumped off thats ludicrous!