stratton Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nicki may be good from the front, but he doesn't seem to have a great racing brain when he's behind, as he makes a lot of desperate overtaking moves which invariably fail. I know Greg doesn't pass too often but when he does it's always clean. 3 titles each, but I class Hancock as the better rider. I agree and i would put Crump/ Gollob in the modern day in front of both.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I agree and i would put Crump/ Gollob in the modern day in front of both.!! On big tracks, Gollob is as good as anybody ever.. On all tracks.. he falls below Hancock/Pedersen. It's why he has just the 1 world title to his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I am am certainly not rubbishing any other rider just giving an opinion on Nicki. I think theres been son confusion. I was attempting to agree with you, I think! On big tracks, Gollob is as good as anybody ever.. On all tracks.. he falls below Hancock/Pedersen. It's why he has just the 1 world title to his name. It took Gollob a while to master smaller tracks but he actually got there in the end to the point that he was actually pretty good at them and probably better on them than the bigger track towards the end of his time in the GPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think theres been son confusion. I was attempting to agree with you, I think! It took Gollob a while to master smaller tracks but he actually got there in the end to the point that he was actually pretty good at them and probably better on them than the bigger track towards the end of his time in the GPs I agree slight confusion never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywamill Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 To have both riders still at the top of the tree at such a relatively mature age, is unbelievable really. Totally different styles but with the same amazing belief still in their abilities. Difference being, Nicki has always antagonised his fellow riders, even his own team mates at times, which means when he does have a valid point to make, they dont listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think theres been son confusion. I was attempting to agree with you, I think! It took Gollob a while to master smaller tracks but he actually got there in the end to the point that he was actually pretty good at them and probably better on them than the bigger track towards the end of his time in the GPs Maybe so, but Hancock and Pedersen aren't pretty good on them, they're very good on them. I would say if we are just talking GP's, you can't really split Hancock and Pedersen, Gollob just behind them. Overall including league racing in all countries as well as the World Championships then Pedersen is ahead of Hancock in my opinion. Hancock a better team rider though of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 On big tracks, Gollob is as good as anybody ever.. On all tracks.. he falls below Hancock/Pedersen. It's why he has just the 1 world title to his name. A big NO way off mark plus Gollob never fenced a rider a month like Pedersen.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 A big NO way off mark plus Gollob never fenced a rider a month like Pedersen.!! Explain how I can be way off mark? If Gollob was so much better on all tracks he'd have won more titles. He didn't.. simply because he didn't have the level of consistency across ALL tracks that Pedersen and Hancock had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Explain how I can be way off mark? If Gollob was so much better on all tracks he'd have won more titles. He didn't.. simply because he didn't have the level of consistency across ALL tracks that Pedersen and Hancock had. Gollob was a better rider than both of those two in my HUMBLE opinion but it was not FACT.!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Gollob was a better rider than both of those two in my HUMBLE opinion but it was not FACT.!! Correct, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm just interested in how you come to that opinion. How do you think the better rider failed to win more than 1 world title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Gollob was a better rider than both of those two in my HUMBLE opinion but it was not FACT.!! Gollob did far worse than Pedersen and fenced loads of riders. Great rider who people paid to watch in his prime days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 And wait a few ms where the Death Star wipes Doyle out with his back wheel..... Doyle clearly not leaning over the drama queen as posited by some welshman. so you don't like nicki or the welsh, anything else we need to know about you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Explain how I can be way off mark? If Gollob was so much better on all tracks he'd have won more titles. He didn't.. simply because he didn't have the level of consistency across ALL tracks that Pedersen and Hancock had. Correct. Gollob had plenty of chances to win World Titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pinny Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Gollob also used to give up and not even try if the track wasnt to his liking i.e slick. How many times did we see him pack up whilst at the back in gps? Quite a lot. A great rider but Pedersen much better - Nickis been a top rider in the leagues for about 15 years - he averaged 10.5 in the EL once , gollob never would of done that purely due to the amount of small tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Look who's talking: http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/4419/doyle-im-no-dirty-rider Aussie champ Jason Doyle hit back at claims he’s “a dirty rider” and feels he was “hard done by really badly” over his Gorzow SGP exclusion on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Doyle has never been dirty. He always used to be too nice. He is hard but fair like Jason Crump was in my opinion. Who was the referee in the match? Was it Greg Hancock in a disguise by any chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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