screm Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 no one doubts how much effort the promotion put in to assure the sport stays alive but you have to ask yourself is it just like poking a stick into a dead animal and hoping it jumps up Lets hope there`s plenty life left in Berwick Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The problem with “listening” to a fan base on a form like this is that there are a number of parody accounts, Dyson24 being the latest in a long list. A group of trolls and wind up merchants who have set out to derail all things Berwick Speedway for the last 5 years, listen to their “opinion” it is turgid enough as a fan having to read it let alone having to take it on board! listen to the opinion of fans who obsess over nuisances and newsletters, it passes the stage of listening to them and ultimately ends with pandering to them once you realise that actually, some accounts just find ways to put a negative spin on quite a lot of things the club does...that problem runs deep on this forum where some simply seem to punt speedway as a sport day in day out. Berwick have been as open and transparent as any other club in the league in recent years, like most clubs the message is typically, if you have an opinion or feedback contact the club and have a chat about it, that’s the general noise that comes from every club in the country, venting your spleen about it daily on here, well personally, I don’t know what someone thinks they’re actually achieving by doing that? That again can be applied across the board on this forum. A case and point being if I were to be of the mind-set that you should be able to buy Dre Beats Earphones from the shop of every speedway track in that country, that’s how I feel, I am going to post it on every thread and irrespective of the good work clubs do, positive or not I am going to demand that they sell Dre Beats. I don’t know how much that will cost, the logistics of it, it might ultimately see clubs running at even more of a loss than they currently are but I WANT DRE BEATS EAR PHONES….chances of it happening? Slim so in reality it is in every ones best interest I get over myself and understand that and focus on what the club actually does rather than taking the stance that the club don’t listen to me or aren’t actually acting in my best interest….because even though they don’t sell Dre Beats, speedway clubs do sell the product of “speedway” which is far more important than Dre Beats, newsletters and supposedly being fed total BS. wot a slavva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Cook saying this weeks SS that his Ash-Tech tuned engine is awesome when "there is a bit of dirt on the track"which is strange giving his moaning about Berwick after breaking track record,which had that bit of dirt on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Cook saying this weeks SS that his Ash-Tech tuned engine is awesome when "there is a bit of dirt on the track"which is strange giving his moaning about Berwick after breaking track record,which had that bit of dirt on it. it's a pity only 4 out of the 13 riders could ride Berwicks track last Sat, and Cook rode it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It has been said that a couple of riders had offered their services on track preparation. The promoter declined the offer.What rider would know how to prepare a track ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 well the lads shud have a better idea than us geeks lol lol mmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 it's a pity only 4 out of the 13 riders could ride Berwicks track last Sat, and Cook rode it well Well that's two more riders than one of Berwick`s riders thought, as he said it only suited two, but lets have non of this naughtiness, last Saturday`s referee marked the track as excellent so that should be the end of it. The fact that four riders have taken to social media to say otherwise, and the fact that the track has been described as difficult in this weeks Speedway Star has nothing to do with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Berwick newsletter tonight more or less put the 'bad track' story to bed by publishing referee's report to SCB. Which says it was excellent in all departments. Shall we move on? Is there somewhere all the fans can see the referees report on all matches Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Is there somewhere all the fans can see the referees report on all matches DickNo,only the good ones are published.!!!Well that's two more riders than one of Berwick`s riders thought, as he said it only suited two, but lets have non of this naughtiness, last Saturday`s referee marked the track as excellent so that should be the end of it. The fact that four riders have taken to social media to say otherwise, and the fact that the track has been described as difficult in this weeks Speedway Star has nothing to do with it.If any rider though the track was "dangerous "they need to consider what to do to make money.If it was difficult they need to adapt to suit conditions ,the throttle works both ways and set -ups can be altered to suit conditions quite readily by decent riders.How can riders win races in the fastest times recorded this season and say the track is crap.the sport is becoming a joke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 If any rider though the track was "dangerous "they need to consider what to do to make money.If it was difficult they need to adapt to suit conditions ,the throttle works both ways and set -ups can be altered to suit conditions quite readily by decent riders.How can riders win races in the fastest times recorded this season and say the track is crap.the sport is becoming a joke. Spot on, it seems for some folk the track will never be any good. Like you say, the times, and the track record couldn't possibly have happened on a poor track - or at least in my limited opinion. It is another example of why the sport is becoming a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Sorry I've just watched the DVD tonight and wasted my money, sorry Berwick that was awful. Kevin's skill missing Garrity was awesome, thanks Kevin. Sissis collar bone injury was unfortunate, full respect to Jorgy for his actions after the incident. Bates incident IMO was a Racing incident,,, sorry Berwick fans your comment of Discraceful move I hope was in the heat of the moment, I admit I would possibly have made the same comment but your allowed your own opinion which I would, in this case disagree with sorry. First and foremost I wish all the injured riders a speedy recovery which I'm sure we all do. Finally wish Berwick speedway good luck with longevity and look foreword to seeing you all in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is there somewhere all the fans can see the referees report on all matches Dick Please don't knock it, I for one am delighted to see the referees reports back though it does seem they are only issued when they praise the track prep, I must've missed the others. A young rider like Bates or Garcia may not know how to prepare a track. An experienced rider like Stead, Hall or Doolan wi know what is required. Rymel used to help with track prep when Peter Waite was promoter as did Stefan Mell. Rymel getting into the tractor mid meeting and doing figurs of 8's on the 3rd and 4th bends topull shale down. I think most riders in Czech are taught about track preparation as part of the speedway education, to be fair to Berwick if you asked the riders how they wanted the track you would probably get several different opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Please don't knock it, I for one am delighted to see the referees reports back though it does seem they are only issued when they praise the track prep, I must've missed the others. I think most riders in Czech are taught about track preparation as part of the speedway education, to be fair to Berwick if you asked the riders how they wanted the track you would probably get several different opinions. Riders at Marketta are taught track craft, not so at the other tracks, as far as I am aware. Edited August 22, 2015 by To The Point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Please don't knock it, I for one am delighted to see the referees reports back though it does seem they are only issued when they praise the track prep, I must've missed the others. I think most riders in Czech are taught about track preparation as part of the speedway education, to be fair to Berwick if you asked the riders how they wanted the track you would probably get several different opinions. Not knocking it just the same as you wondered what all the other reports said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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