coolcol Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ah I get it now because Scunthorpe and Redcar are SH!TE!!! lol very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaky11 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Interesting, but the track was the same shape now as it was in the Waite days, this problem in general did not exist then to the degree that it does now. You would get a rider like Pepe who would trap from gate 4 and go against the fence cutting back on bend 2, you probably could not do that now, hence more riders sticking to the inside line on bend 1 causing more incidents. So what did we get right for the FIM under 21s, that we are not doing on a regular basis for our riders, and what has to be done to help our riders to the success that they are obviously capable of. I may be wrong on this but isn't it the FIM who would have prepared the track for the U-21's ? Yes it was probably the same people actually doing it but being instructed what to do by somebody other than the usual track curator ? Maybe they need to look at it that way and look at what was being done different that night to create that standard of racing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I may be wrong on this but isn't it the FIM who would have prepared the track for the U-21's ? Yes it was probably the same people actually doing it but being instructed what to do by somebody other than the usual track curator ? Maybe they need to look at it that way and look at what was being done different that night to create that standard of racing ? In the days leading up to the meeting I presume Berwick prepare the track in their usual manner, on the night the FIM and on night referee will have rules governing track prep. On the second point I would hope the Berwick track staff will prepare the track to the best of their abilities no matter what the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Jeez!What a load on mince gets posted on here at times! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Jeez! What a load on mince gets posted on here at times! Aye , and it's not steak mince either , just a load of old dross . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 well lets get right behind scot and the boysand beat edinburghon saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Jeez! What a load on mince gets posted on here at times! Just to help with the pie sales I reckon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Honestly, though, taking a moment to stop and think through the "it's the Berwick track that's causing poor gating" argument: then surely it would make the away team poor gaters too? I sometimes read this forum in incredulity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 On a number of threads here it seem to be "poor tracks" that has become the popular mantra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Honestly, though, taking a moment to stop and think through the "it's the Berwick track that's causing poor gating" argument: then surely it would make the away team poor gaters too? I sometimes read this forum in incredulity. You obviously not reading the posts correctly,I have not seen any post stating that the Berwick track causes poor gating.You are correct if that was the case the away riders are poor gaters too.Imo the first and second bend in any race at Berwick is important because of the limited amount of passing opportunities . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I may be wrong on this but isn't it the FIM who would have prepared the track for the U-21's ? Yes it was probably the same people actually doing it but being instructed what to do by somebody other than the usual track curator ? Maybe they need to look at it that way and look at what was being done different that night to create that standard of racing ? The FIM would have given guide lines, the track staff would have prepared it. The track was really good that night, so learn the lesson and do it next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The FIM would have given guide lines, the track staff would have prepared it. The track was really good that night, so learn the lesson and do it next week. I still clearly recall a highly respected person's response to your track prep ramblings, Taffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I still clearly recall a highly respected person's response to your track prep ramblings, Taffy I asked for DEBATE. Why are our riders gating well away. Why are they not gating well at home. What is the difference DEBATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I asked for DEBATE. Why are our riders gating well away. Why are they not gating well at home. What is the difference DEBATE What do you think the difference is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 What do you think the difference is? I would ask the riders, they are the ones that have to ride it. Then prepare it to their needs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I would ask the riders, they are the ones that have to ride it. Then prepare it to their needs What do you do if you get a different answer from every rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 What do you do if you get a different answer from every rider? At the moment they are all singing from the same hymn sheet, if the set up is to change then adapt to that change. Priority should be the riders reqirements, it does appear at times that track prep is singing from a different hymn sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 What do you think the difference is? The only answer can be that all the away riders love coming to Berwick and outgating the Bandits!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hummel left the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The only answer can be that all the away riders love coming to Berwick and outgating the Bandits!! Is it because track prep does not build into it a home advantage, this certainly applied in the Waite days, home riders were OK with what was given, visiting riders hated the place, some loved it like Stoney, Wilson Thorpy etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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