Berwick 2016

[Tsunami]

you can have as many ambulances as you like , but you will need another doctor ,not paramedic to see the transfer of the patient etc . .. 1 doctor is still not enough . you need 2 if you want to keep the meeting flowing along . as we found out at workington .

As HadrianDog has implied, at Brough most weeks we have 3 Doctors on the centre green, and always 2 Ambulances to minimise accident delays and to cover multiple injured riders. The medical staff employed by agency, includes a full Doctor, and at least one Paramedic, and some of the medical staff come in an emergency Land Rover which is equipped as an Ambulance.

[bigeddiechek]

Quite an interesting article.
The need to 2 doctors has been identified, and I'm sure will be in place. Which will make a huge difference if (hopefully not) needed.

 

Also interesting to read that the club's view is that they need to be financially independent.
Really all quite positive stuff.

 

http://berwickbandits.co/article/bandits-boss-buys-ambulance

[HadrianDog]

you can have as many ambulances as you like , but you will need another doctor ,not paramedic to see the transfer of the patient etc . .. 1 doctor is still not enough . you need 2 if you want to keep the meeting flowing along . as we found out at workington .

Low down on our terraces, the full line of doctors-and I mean doctors- are almost an hindrance to viewing the back straight. Joking about the hindrance, not the number of doctors. Humour aside, the medical cover at some tracks is literally, the bare minimum and the Anderson ambulance is a more than welcome addition to Berwick ready for the T/T meetings.

 

Posted before reading your post Tsunami- our precautions are worth posting twice though so leaving intact.

Edited December 30, 2015 by HadrianDog

[screm]

Quite an interesting article.

The need to 2 doctors has been identified, and I'm sure will be in place. Which will make a huge difference if (hopefully not) needed.

 

Also interesting to read that the club's view is that they need to be financially independent.

Really all quite positive stuff.

 

http://berwickbandits.co/article/bandits-boss-buys-ambulance

 

I hope the promotion do introduce two doctors, or two para medics, or a mix of the two, so we avoid delays when injured riders need to be transferred to a County ambulance.

[jenga]

money is tight, but speedway is tighter . no chance of extra doctors when you cant even get an appointment within a week !

[screm]

https://www.facebook.com/BerwickSpeedway/?fref=nf

[damosuzuki]

Also great to see Monarchs are converting a van for the same purpose.

[Pinny]

Also make sure the doctor stays clear of the bar 😂

[Tardis]

Also make sure the doctor stays clear of the bar

t is a slur on the good name of the speedway doctor who has done the job for over 20 years

[coolcol]

welwelwel happynu yr 2 all bandit fans even jenga and chadders lololololololololol

[Bandit59]

Happy 😊 new year one an ally

[samsplint]

Also great to see Monarchs are converting a van for the same purpose.

The rules must have changed on this as a few years ago it was not allowed at berwick

you can have as many ambulances as you like , but you will need another doctor ,not paramedic to see the transfer of the patient etc . .. 1 doctor is still not enough . you need 2 if you want to keep the meeting flowing along . as we found out at workington .

I must disagree with you on that one if you think most accidents at speedway are high speed rtc's and as paramedics deal with these day on day they are the best choice unless you have truma doctor, most gp's never see these type of injuries.

I remember 1 doc coming to berrington saying he was not used to this as an ambulance crew and nurses had looked at the casuality before he got to them

[scaramanga]

The rules must have changed on this as a few years ago it was not allowed at berwick

I must disagree with you on that one if you think most accidents at speedway are high speed rtc's and as paramedics deal with these day on day they are the best choice unless you have truma doctor, most gp's never see these type of injuries.

I remember 1 doc coming to berrington saying he was not used to this as an ambulance crew and nurses had looked at the casuality before he got to them

sorry but you are wrong

its got nothing to do with experience or what there use to dealing with

the bspa acu or whoever sets the guidelines /rules are the ones who state unless theres a doctor in attendance speedway can not run so if the 1 and only track doctor has to go to hospitol with the injured party then no speedway will run unless a replacement doctor is brought in

paramedics can not issue some drugs and if they are used by the doctor he has to travel and do the hand over to another qualified person

obviously more than a average gp is needed at speedway but not 100% sure of what level the rule book states

Edited January 5, 2016 by scarra

[Tardis]

sorry but you are wrong

its got nothing to do with experience or what there use to dealing with

the bspa acu or whoever sets the guidelines /rules are the ones who state unless theres a doctor in attendance speedway can not run so if the 1 and only track doctor has to go to hospitol with the injured party then no speedway will run unless a replacement doctor is brought in

paramedics can not issue some drugs and if they are used by the doctor he has to travel and do the hand over to another qualified person

obviously more than a average gp is needed at speedway but not 100% sure of what level the rule book states

Its you thats wrong sugest you have a look at the rule book it was changed a long time ago

Its you thats wrong sugest you have a look at the rule book it was changed a long time ago

The rules you need to look at are 8.4 and 8.4.1

Edited January 6, 2016 by Tardis

[jenga]

can you get a quote from the rule book on here . it would be very interesting to read . from what i understand , paramedics are not qualified to be the only medical cover at any speedway meeting . there must be a qualified doctor in attendance at all times . so i think a quote from the rule book is required to put this topic to bed .

can you tell us what year the rule changed ? ....we await your input .

Edited January 6, 2016 by jenga

[Reviresco]

The 2015 Speedway regulations include under:

 

8. MEDICAL CODE

 

"8.4 An MO is either i) a Doctor [who must have Full Registration and a licence to practice from the General Medical Council (GMC), hold Personal Medical Malpractice Cover appropriate for pre-hospital immediate care, (NHS Crown Indemnity is not applicable) and must not be subject to working in a GMC Approved Practice Setting (APS)] or ii) a Paramedic (registered with the Health & Care Professions Council (www.hpc-uk.org) and hold appropriate Personal Medical Malpractice Insurance cover.

 

8.4.1 The CMO will be a Doctor (or nominated if more than one Doctor is present), otherwise it will be a Paramedic (or nominated if more than one Paramedic is present)."

 

Hope this helps.

[Tardis]

can you get a quote from the rule book on here . it would be very interesting to read . from what i understand , paramedics are not qualified to be the only medical cover at any speedway meeting . there must be a qualified doctor in attendance at all times . so i think a quote from the rule book is required to put this topic to bed .

can you tell us what year the rule changed ? ....we await your input .

Changed last centuary

[jenga]

so from that , i take it paramedics can still allow the meeting to run if the doctor has to go in the ambulance with the patient . as long as the paramedic has the sufficient criteria in place the meeting can carry on and as long as there is a 2nd registered ambulance on site .

 

if there is only one ambulance at the meeting , the meeting will be held up until the patient is transferred to the county ambulance .. i think that,s right , is it ?

Changed last centuary

what, , in 1915 .?

Edited January 6, 2016 by jenga

[Reviresco]

Minimum Cover requirement for running a Speedway Meeting is:

 

1 x Medical Officer (as per Regulation 8.4),

1 x Ambulance

1 x Ambulance Driver

1 x Ambulance Attendant

4 x Other First Aiders

 

If the numbers drop below this, the meeting should be halted.

 

EDIT: P.S. Think we are in the 21st Century, now, not the 20th

Edited January 6, 2016 by macca56

[Tardis]

so from that , i take it paramedics can still allow the meeting to run if the doctor has to go in the ambulance with the patient . as long as the paramedic has the sufficient criteria in place the meeting can carry on and as long as there is a 2nd registered ambulance on site .

 

if there is only one ambulance at the meeting , the meeting will be held up until the patient is transferred to the county ambulance .. i think that,s right , is it ?

what, , in 1915 .?

casualty can be transfered into an equiped 1st aid room to await county ambulance, and the meeting carry on as long as another paramedic/doc is available.

 

 

I think it changed in late 90's as when bandits came back to shielfield medical cover was a paramedic 80% of the time