dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Would Adam Ellis leave Eastbourne in the NL for Rye in the PL?just a thought re Adam - he doesnt have a 2015 PL average.Now that he hasnt started 2016 in the PL can he still come in on the 2014 figure or would he have to convert his new EL average????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 The promotion should act like Peterborough have done. Show the paying public some respect and give us a product worth watching. Rob Branford would be a much better option at reserve, he never knows when he's beat and is a great team player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) The promotion should act like Peterborough have done. Show the paying public some respect and give us a product worth watching. Rob Branford would be a much better option at reserve, he never knows when he's beat and is a great team player. Branford definitely has something about him. Fire in his belly and never say die attitude. That's what people like to see. I can see a bit of Garrity in him when he first came to Rye and could be bothered. Shame the promoters dumped Rob when Robert Lambert upped his demands. Was great watching Rob & Ben team riding on Sunday Edited May 5, 2016 by Shads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I think they would make a good reserve pairing, as you said seems to care about the team he's riding for, definitely not one to pull out of a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Only if he withdraws his services/retires. I don't believe a rider on an assessed average cannot be sacked. The ruling where such a rider had to be included in a re-declaration stemmed from previous seasons where he would qualify for a true average once he had ridden 4 home and 4 away. I think the promoters have cocked this up just as they have done regarding EDR averages so may need to amend the ruling. Rye are not the only team affected by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 I don't believe a rider on an assessed average cannot be sacked. The ruling where such a rider had to be included in a re-declaration stemmed from previous seasons where he would qualify for a true average once he had ridden 4 home and 4 away. I think the promoters have cocked this up just as they have done regarding EDR averages so may need to amend the ruling. Rye are not the only team affected by this.This rule seems fairly set in stone TBH, there hasn't been any dissagreements over it and everybody reads it the same, so if you are correct then well done but it seems as if you're the only one reading it this way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Seems strange that when Klindt pulled out they opted for an untried Dane with no track record in Denmark were they expecting another BuskJacobson! With hindsight they could have used anybody and waited for Rob to turn up. Why offer him a team place and then withdraw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Seems strange that when Klindt pulled out they opted for an untried Dane with no track record in Denmark were they expecting another BuskJacobson! With hindsight they could have used anybody and waited for Rob to turn up. Why offer him a team place and then withdraw it. I think the problems arose when another rider chose to ride elsewhere, anyway water under the bridge , it gave Robert the chance to stay home for his sisters wedding , which we were pleased about because of the later start for the NL, he's happy there and believes in what the promotion are trying to do there, hppefully some other doors will open eventually. Â Chopper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) The rule is in place to stop teams signing duff foreigners, as frustrating as it is as a Rye fan it's a good rule and we've fallen foul of it. Â The lesson is to do plenty of research when bringing a rider over. There are so many riders in this league who are still under the assessed average they first came over on, that says it all. Â Letting NBJ go is something we'll be frustrated about for years, that and building a team around a rider who hadn't signed a contract show there is a lot to learn for the new promotion. That said there's a better feeling around the place and the new promotion are exactly that, new. They will learn from their mistakes hopefully. Â Karger has to go somehow and Branford come in though, plus a change further up the order. Edited May 6, 2016 by Ben91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 But the rule you say is a good rule Ben91, says they cant do what your saying should happen ie, Branford for Karger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 But the rule you say is a good rule Ben91, says they cant do what your saying should happen ie, Branford for Karger? The rule doesn't stop Karger deciding the PL is not for him and deciding to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 But the rule you say is a good rule Ben91, says they cant do what your saying should happen ie, Branford for Karger? It is a good rule, there's no two ways about it. Karger would have to step down but that could always happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Say Karger got injured (say a broken wrist ) not wishing injury on anyone. He's out for 2 months and Rye House sign/use a replacement do they have to reinstate him in the team or is that a get out clause. Maybe he can't even sign for another British team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So Scunny now have Holub on a 3.00 average, does that mean Kargers average will drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So Scunny now have Holub on a 3.00 average, does that mean Kargers average will drop? Â That has to be a mistake. Up until last Friday he was a 7 point assessed rider and yesterday he dropped to 3 when he should never drop below 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Well on the BSPA website now, absolute cock up this sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Something needs to be done, Karger clearly is not up to the Premier League standard. The days of beating most teams by 50 odd points at home are long gone and although the draw on Monday gave us some good racing we don't want draws and losses at home. One of the best riders in the league-Eddie can't keep carrying the team as he has done the last three years. Crowds will inevitably windle and the investment in the stadium will be a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 That has to be a mistake. Up until last Friday he was a 7 point assessed rider and yesterday he dropped to 3 when he should never drop below 5. According to someone on Scunny thread, Hollubs 7 point average wasn't an assessed average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So Scunny now have Holub on a 3.00 average, does that mean Kargers average will drop? It's in the best interests of speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 According to someone on Scunny thread, Hollubs 7 point average wasn't an assessed average  It was from when he started until last Friday according to the green sheets and also for the first 7 matches this season on the Scunthorpe web site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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