tyretrax Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Who's Guy Martin? Don't start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Who's Guy Martin? Some guy called Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Who's Guy Martin? Don't make a Dick of yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Don't make a Dick of yourself Always better to be a dick than a fanny, Taff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Always better to be a dick than a fanny, Taff! I like the Fanny, not the dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I like the Fanny, not the dick. thats not what i have heard ! you and you carrier bags........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I used to love F1 back in the day when the likes of Senna, Prost and Mansell done battle. These days it's become a complete bore fest. Agreed. It's all about circulating til the pitstops, which is all the commentators talk about, then get out again quickest as a way of overtaking the other chap as opposed to racing him on the circuit a la Mansell & Senna. Few characters one can identify with and follow these days.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Agreed. It's all about circulating til the pitstops, which is all the commentators talk about, then get out again quickest as a way of overtaking the other chap as opposed to racing him on the circuit a la Mansell & Senna. Few characters one can identify with and follow these days....When a race is decided by how quickly you can change a wheel it's lost my interest. People who know sod all say that speedway is about who makes the first corner in front wins, forgetting there are three other riders in the race. At least you can see the entire race. In F1 you get a brief glimpse as the cars pass by Edited March 14, 2016 by Shads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 When a race is decided by how quickly you can change a wheel it's lost my interest. People who know sod all say that speedway is about who makes the first corner in front wins, forgetting there are three other riders in the race. At least you can see the entire race. In F1 you get a brief glimpse as the cars pass by Shame Speedway as a whole is so poorly promoted really, fantastic product, just needs the right packaging. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Shame Speedway as a whole is so poorly promoted really, fantastic product, just needs the right packaging. No sh!t Sherlock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 No sh!t Sherlock! No swearing on the forum please, this is a family environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecksact Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 No sh!t Sherlock! Well, you say that, but why hasn't it filtered through to the clubs/promoters after all these years? I've just moved close to Redcar's track and I've seen ONE poster so far - and that was for last year's meetings! Yeah, I know, that's Redcar for you. But I lived in Ware and followed Rye House for 4 years and never once saw an advert/poster for speedway! Many years in Edinburgh, never saw one once. Unless you buy a local paper, in many areas (I can't speak for all, obviously!), you might never know speedway existed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Well, you say that, but why hasn't it filtered through to the clubs/promoters after all these years? I've just moved close to Redcar's track and I've seen ONE poster so far - and that was for last year's meetings! Yeah, I know, that's Redcar for you. But I lived in Ware and followed Rye House for 4 years and never once saw an advert/poster for speedway! Many years in Edinburgh, never saw one once. Unless you buy a local paper, in many areas (I can't speak for all, obviously!), you might never know speedway existed! Contrast that with Berwick Speedway who have mounted a poster campaign this year and have them up in many shops & businesses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Well, you say that, but why hasn't it filtered through to the clubs/promoters after all these years? I've just moved close to Redcar's track and I've seen ONE poster so far - and that was for last year's meetings! Yeah, I know, that's Redcar for you. But I lived in Ware and followed Rye House for 4 years and never once saw an advert/poster for speedway! Many years in Edinburgh, never saw one once. Unless you buy a local paper, in many areas (I can't speak for all, obviously!), you might never know speedway existed! I often think that advertising is seen by some as a cure to all speedway's ills when I really don't think it is. If you are interested in the sport and new to an area you'd make enquiries. If you're not, you probably wouldn't go even if the town was bedecked with banners. Its a matter of targeting. That means putting the message out on special occasions (Berwick did a fantastic job when they had televised meetings) or you have a large influx of people into the area (Isle of Wight, for example). For a place like Redcar, blanket advertising would probably be a waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I often think that advertising is seen by some as a cure to all speedway's ills when I really don't think it is. If you are interested in the sport and new to an area you'd make enquiries. If you're not, you probably wouldn't go even if the town was bedecked with banners. Its a matter of targeting. That means putting the message out on special occasions (Berwick did a fantastic job when they had televised meetings) or you have a large influx of people into the area (Isle of Wight, for example). For a place like Redcar, blanket advertising would probably be a waste of money. You're likely to get more new fans through the gate if you advertise than if you don't. You have to bring new fans in and keep the existing ones too, no good preaching to the converted so to speak, which is why adverts for meetings being placed in the Speedway Star always baffles me. Used to happen for Rye with nothing in the local rag sometimes, the people reading the Speedway Star already like speedway... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Contrast that with Berwick Speedway who have mounted a poster campaign this year and have them up in many shops & businesses. To be fair they had a poster campaign in 2015, just didn't distribute the posters. Much better effort this year by the couple who were doing the advertising for the programme. It's taken about 6 years to listen, but better late than never. Onwards & Upwards I often think that advertising is seen by some as a cure to all speedway's ills when I really don't think it is. If you are interested in the sport and new to an area you'd make enquiries. If you're not, you probably wouldn't go even if the town was bedecked with banners. Its a matter of targeting. That means putting the message out on special occasions (Berwick did a fantastic job when they had televised meetings) or you have a large influx of people into the area (Isle of Wight, for example). For a place like Redcar, blanket advertising would probably be a waste of money. Advertising is a part of promotiing your business, not the whole, however, it is an important part of getting the message out to the interested public. If you don't get the information out in front of your customer base how does one expect them to know about it. Berwick is an example of a town that has a large influx of visitors during the speedway season, if you can attract at least some of the visitors to come along, they may become long term speedway fans in their own area. It's about getting the information out where the public will see it, pubs, cafes, tourist info centres holiday camps etc,.etc., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 The problem in my mind is that although a poster campaign is obviously good it takes actual footage to show how exciting Speedway actually is however that is expensive. What bugs me most is the venues that host Speedway & other activities dont even advertise. Walk into Kent on a night when the dogs are running and you wouldnt even know Speedway took place there. How hard would it be for a TV to be set up with footage of previous meetings being played on loop? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonds7 Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ignore the people that pay through the gate to keep the place going. Great advice. I'm glad you're not my accountantI didn't realise you had that much money shads can you lend me £20 please 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I didn't realise you had that much money shads can you lend me £20 please 😁 Are things that bad up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonds7 Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Are things that bad up there?ok 10 then ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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