KevH Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 The new promoters have a big job on their hands, to upgrade a deteriorating stadium and increase an ever shrinking fan base. Uncertain times ahead for the rockets I fear. Much the same could have been said about Glasgow a short time ago.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Len Silver shooting himself in the foot twice. Also the only injury that hasn't actually occurred to a Rocket over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Â We declared a team way under the points limit, Boxall was injured pre-season (I won't go into the details) and Doyle was drafted in, naturally making the team far better than the one that we had originally declared. Â Doyle was scoring well and as Boxall was nearing a return we could have dropped a second string/reserve for Boxall if I recall correctly, meaning Doyle could stay and we would have Boxall back too as a second string/reserve as opposed to a heat leader. Anyway, Len dropped Doyle and Boxall came back to revert to the original 1-7 that we declared way under the points limit, then to rub salt into the fans' wounds he went on the mic before a meeting basically telling the fans it was his team and he could do what he liked with it. Â I think a lot of fans stayed away after that, it has certainly made me stop making as many trips to Rye since. That's pretty much how I remember it.He attempted to explain that he couldn't keep Doyle due to averages, but nobody believed a word of it. After a lot of disgruntled supporters took to social media and this forum to voice their disapproval, Silver used the local newspaper to verbally attack certain Rye House fans (me included). I still have the cutting... A PR disaster Edited October 21, 2015 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 That's pretty much how I remember it. He attempted to explain that he couldn't keep Doyle due to averages, but nobody believed a word of it. After a lot of disgruntled supporters took to social media and this forum to voice their disapproval, Silver used the local newspaper to verbally attack certain Rye House fans (me included). I still have the cutting... A PR disaster Showing loyalty to Steve Boxall would be the only plus point for Len Silver. He paid the bills and can pay who he wants but if he slags off his paying supporters he will lose business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Showing loyalty to Steve Boxall would be the only plus point for Len Silver. He paid the bills and can pay who he wants but if he slags off his paying supporters he will lose business. He did, he has, he's gone. Cue Professor Cox & the band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 That's pretty much how I remember it. He attempted to explain that he couldn't keep Doyle due to averages, but nobody believed a word of it. After a lot of disgruntled supporters took to social media and this forum to voice their disapproval, Silver used the local newspaper to verbally attack certain Rye House fans (me included). I still have the cutting... A PR disaster Think it was possible to drop Hawkins or Bowen to get Boxall back in, instead Doyle went. Of course it could be said hindsight is a wonderful thing seeing as Doyle is now a GP rider but he was an out and out PL number one back then too. I'm sure we ended that year with James Brundle racing for us too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 We declared a team way under the points limit, Boxall was injured pre-season (I won't go into the details) and Doyle was drafted in, naturally making the team far better than the one that we had originally declared. Â Doyle was scoring well and as Boxall was nearing a return we could have dropped a second string/reserve for Boxall if I recall correctly, meaning Doyle could stay and we would have Boxall back too as a second string/reserve as opposed to a heat leader. Anyway, Len dropped Doyle and Boxall came back to revert to the original 1-7 that we declared way under the points limit, then to rub salt into the fans' wounds he went on the mic before a meeting basically telling the fans it was his team and he could do what he liked with it. Â I think a lot of fans stayed away after that, it has certainly made me stop making as many trips to Rye since. Â The decision to revert back to the original 1-7 wasn't a good one, but I think shows the loyalty he has to his riders. He had only signed Doyley as a short term replacement and I think everyone was aware of that at the time. Problem was Doyley was always going to a better points scorer & more reliable than Boxall. Personally I'd have kept Doyley but to keep Doyley and bring back Boxall would have meant sacking other riders. I have to admit that IMO, and as someone who gets on with him, the way that Len dealt with the crowd over the decision was pretty appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 The decision to revert back to the original 1-7 wasn't a good one, but I think shows the loyalty he has to his riders. He had only signed Doyley as a short term replacement and I think everyone was aware of that at the time. Problem was Doyley was always going to a better points scorer & more reliable than Boxall. Personally I'd have kept Doyley but to keep Doyley and bring back Boxall would have meant sacking other riders. I have to admit that IMO, and as someone who gets on with him, the way that Len dealt with the crowd over the decision was pretty appalling. Steve Boxall was Silvers favourite, he was never gonna be dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Steve Boxall was Silvers favourite, he was never gonna be dropped Blinded by the lads unfulfilled potential. Unfortunately he never has the kind of set up needed to be a top PL rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Getting rid of those magnificent men in there flying machines would be a good start   Not necessarily a good move IMO. Of course it's naff but that's the hook. The Spedeworth Oval promotors use some pretty dreadful dated music for their racing classes but If you drift away and forget the sport you will always be reminded where you heard it and hopefully it will bring back good memories. Where are You Now My Love by Jackie Trent will always remind me of Hackney on a Friday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not necessarily a good move IMO. Of course it's naff but that's the hook. The Spedeworth Oval promotors use some pretty dreadful dated music for their racing classes but If you drift away and forget the sport you will always be reminded where you heard it and hopefully it will bring back good memories. Where are You Now My Love by Jackie Trent will always remind me of Hackney on a Friday night The whole thing needs a revamp. Can't just cater for sixty-something's who wanna be reminded of the "good days" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Fantasy Speedway Promoter time! 1 Robert Lambert 8.342 Kenneth Bjerre 8.223 Nikolaj B Jacobsen 6.914 Steve Boxall 6.155 Kasper L Nielsen 5.746 Luke Bowen 4.097 Ben Morley 3.00 Total: 42.45 Edited October 23, 2015 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Kennett will be in there i would of thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 The whole thing needs a revamp. Can't just cater for sixty-something's who wanna be reminded of the "good days" Quite right lets dig out some Ronnie Russell music to remind us of the bad old days that should get rid of a few more punters Fantasy Speedway Promoter time! 1 Robert Lambert 8.34 2 Kenneth Bjerre 8.22 3 Nikolaj B Jacobsen 6.91 4 Steve Boxall 6.15 5 Kasper L Nielsen 5.74 6 Luke Bowen 4.09 7 Ben Morley 3.00 Total: 42.45 Surely we need to move away from the Boxall Bowen days and Ben Morely with all due respect to him is nowhere near a good enough PL reserve unless he has a strong partner to take the pressure off of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Quite right lets dig out some Ronnie Russell music to remind us of the bad old days that should get rid of a few more punters Surely we need to move away from the Boxall Bowen days and Ben Morely with all due respect to him is nowhere near a good enough PL reserve unless he has a strong partner to take the pressure off of him Don't forget every PL team will have a 3 point rider, so surely Morley will be one of the strongest number 7's in the league? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Would Morley be on a 3? What was his average at Redcar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Would Morley be on a 3? What was his average at Redcar He's a 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Quite right lets dig out some Ronnie Russell music to remind us of the bad old days that should get rid of a few more punters  Do you have the play list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Rather have Olly Greenwood back, give Ayres a go or go with a Watjknecht/Spiller. The other reserve needs to be someone who can score home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 How about  1. Edward kennett 9.58 2. Robin aspegren 4.82 3. Nikolaj busk jakobsen 6.91 4. Nicolai Klindt 5.89 5. Ben barker 7.56 6. Stefan nielsen 4.74 7. Danny ayres 3.00 42.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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