JamesB Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I am not a lawyer but I would expect that any ban could potentially be challenged under 'restraint of trade' laws particularly as this is intra EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 We have no agreement with Poland. In fact we have the complete opposite to the point that PZM permit holders are banned from the PL. Yet we're not letting riders go off and ride in Poland. I'll guarantee that Carl Wilkinson is not riding in Poland too! The FIM International Speedway League Calendar lists this event last after the Polish play offs & reserved dates for the PL play offs as it was a late addition to the calendar. The ISLB rates open meetings as lower priority than league meetings so I would imagine that would explain the lack of sanctions on some the absentees in the past couple of years since the Bureau's inception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 They wont be banned as the contracts for the Polish League include commitments to the play offs should any team get there. What people need to realise is that its no different to say a Chris Harris or Chris Holder missing the play offs in the UK to ride in an individual meeting abroad that isnt an FIM recognised event, the supporters of Coventry and Poole would be up in arms moaning. Its no different as the Polish fans would not be impressed if one of their riders (i.e King) mised the play offs just to compete in an individual meeting in the UK. Of course as an Ipswich supporter i want Danny to ride but can totally understand the reasons he isnt riding and those asking for a ban sem to think that somehow British Speedway is more superior to the Polish League. As i say how annoyed would you be if your rider didnt ride in the play offs over here because the Polish league had an individual meeting on??? Read my above post its nothing to do with a payday! Its about a contract. As i have stated how would you feel if a rider in your team missd the UK play offs just to ride in a Polish individual meeting? Its exactly the same! If Danny King missed the play offs in the UK to ride in a Polish individual meeting then us Ipswich fans and Coventry fans would quite rightly be annoyed. All he is doing is honouring his contract to his club and missing an individual that isnt a recoginised FIM event at the end of the day. Try to get your head around the reason he isnt riding instead of people assuming its about pay days when its quite simply nothing from the truth. Why is he not riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 If Theo is long track racing in an FIM event that will take priority anyway so they cannot ban him.............. RP Theo Pijper is riding at Berwick on Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 If Theo is long track racing in an FIM event that will take priority anyway so they cannot ban him.............. RP There is no FIM longtrack this weekend. There is next weekend. Looks like Pijper and Wilkinson just didn't fancy it. I'm sure the BSPA will understand when the fans just don't fancy it too! The FIM International Speedway League Calendar lists this event last after the Polish play offs & reserved dates for the PL play offs as it was a late addition to the calendar. The ISLB rates open meetings as lower priority than league meetings so I would imagine that would explain the lack of sanctions on some the absentees in the past couple of years since the Bureau's inception. Well that explains that one. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 There is no FIM longtrack this weekend. There is next weekend. Looks like Pijper and Wilkinson just didn't fancy it. I'm sure the BSPA will understand when the fans just don't fancy it too! Well that explains that one. Thanks. BSPA won't give a toss about Pijper and Wilkinson anyway when their boss is on the Management Committee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 BSPA won't give a toss about Pijper and Wilkinson anyway when their boss is on the Management Committee not that nonsense again... josh auty was our representive but we all know what happened to him, then ryan douglas came in and we know what happened to him, do all the teams riders not plan anything then incase they get called up?when the draw was make i think, theo, carl or alex never thought in their wildest dreams they would be in the plrc when its advertised as all the clubs no1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sad to see certain riders treating the PLRC in this way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sad to see certain riders treating the PLRC in this way. Unfortunately it happens in the EL all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Oh for the good old days of Saturday nights at Wimbledon and later Coventry when the meeting was a meeting.Miss NL Speedway, Best dressed bus, followed by a proper format where the rider with most points after programmed rides was the winner. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sad to see certain riders treating the PLRC in this way. Completely agree. This used to be the PL prestige event of the season, a must see. Top riders from each team challenging to be The PLRC. Now it appears the odd meeting elsewhere is more important than appearing for the team / supporters that follow week in week out. We have all read so many opinions regarding the problems with British Speedway recently, yet they can't sort this simple situation to satisfy all. Then laughingly continue to analyse why people lose interest. If they can't give it priority then why should I.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 maybe leigh lanham should ride for scunny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 not that nonsense again... josh auty was our representive but we all know what happened to him, then ryan douglas came in and we know what happened to him, do all the teams riders not plan anything then incase they get called up?when the draw was make i think, theo, carl or alex never thought in their wildest dreams they would be in the plrc when its advertised as all the clubs no1sSo where is Theo and Carl then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) as i said before. carl and theo and alex are 3rd 4th and 5th in the order, they wouldnt of even thought of being entered, and again, do you want each rider to put everything on hold from july to sept just incase they get called up? you cant blame any of them for planning something else.by they way? there is a longtrack event on sunday so theo is probably in that Edited September 3, 2015 by neck brace tony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Completely agree. This used to be the PL prestige event of the season, a must see. Top riders from each team challenging to be The PLRC. Now it appears the odd meeting elsewhere is more important than appearing for the team / supporters that follow week in week out. We have all read so many opinions regarding the problems with British Speedway recently, yet they can't sort this simple situation to satisfy all. Then laughingly continue to analyse why people lose interest. If they can't give it priority then why should I.... I have only ever been to one of these meetings before, many years at Coventry Speedway when Mark Courtney was representing Berwick. Just now I am on holiday and was half tempted to go to this meeting but as you say if one or two riders cant be bothered then why should I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 its not about not being bothered, if danny king has been told he has to be in poland then he has to be in poland, last year in the fours scunny had nicolai klindt out because his polish club would have fined him £6000 if he stayed away. and why moan at riders not being there when they werent even meant to be there in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 its not about not being bothered, if danny king has been told he has to be in poland then he has to be in poland, last year in the fours scunny had nicolai klindt out because his polish club would have fined him £6000 if he stayed away. and why moan at riders not being there when they werent even meant to be there in the first place?This is where the BSPA have to get their house in order regarding speedway in UK ,introduce rules regarding riders wanting to ride in UK and where their priorities lie.Let riders who want to earn their money abroad go ahead but not at the expense of making UK speedway a joke, plenty young riders would take the opportunity to step up .We have to step back to move forward again IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 its not about not being bothered, if danny king has been told he has to be in poland then he has to be in poland, last year in the fours scunny had nicolai klindt out because his polish club would have fined him £6000 if he stayed away. and why moan at riders not being there when they werent even meant to be there in the first place? As a BSPA event you would think that they would insist that this meeting would be written each riders contract at the start of the season so we don't have this situation which seems to be a yearly thing, especially for the likes of Danny King as one of the top riders in the PL he was always likely to feature in this meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 its not about not being bothered, if danny king has been told he has to be in poland then he has to be in poland, last year in the fours scunny had nicolai klindt out because his polish club would have fined him £6000 if he stayed away. and why moan at riders not being there when they werent even meant to be there in the first place?Well why should fans bother to travel to Sheffield on Sunday when riders can't, we want to see the 16 best riders in the league compete, not a reserve and some second strings along woth a few number 1's, fair enought if you cannot attend through injury but, some riders are just taking the pi** with these meetings nowadays, Danny King is a British rider who should be riding in a prestegious meeting in his home country representing his club, not riding in the 3rd tier of Polish Speedway imstead, Pijper should be riding in this instead of riding in a grasstrack meeting and Wilikinson instead of having the day off probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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