waiheke1 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Ok Terry - can you quote a post where scb called Hancock a prick? You'll be aware I'm sure of the difference between looking like something and being something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I don't see the difference between looking like something and being something. I still find it derogatory to say such a thing about someone who I hold in the highest regard. I've got the utmost respect for every speedway rider, be they a junior or a world champion, and I don't like it when people put them down in any way. I'll admit I've said some uncomplimentary things about Nicki Pedersen in the past, but watching that crash Saturday and how dazed he looked in he pits I realized what these guys go through. After what's happened with Darcy, I'll never criticize any rider again. Also I want to apologise to SCB for going a bit over the top tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I would say Zmarzlik and Piotr Pawlicki are the future of Polish speedway. Maybe I'm in the minority but I reckon Janowski is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicOctopus Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 In heat 11, Kasprzak pushed Nicki to the outside, so Tai took the lead Later on, it looked like Tai gestured to Zmarzlik to block the inside so Nicki couldn't pass. Is it possible that Tai talked to the Poles before hand and got them to help him win the heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 In heat 11, Kasprzak pushed Nicki to the outside, so Tai took the lead Later on, it looked like Tai gestured to Zmarzlik to block the inside so Nicki couldn't pass. Is it possible that Tai talked to the Poles before hand and got them to help him win the heat? Dont tell me there is race fixing going on!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Riders have done other riders "favours" for a long long time. Far less I would say in GPS than in the old world finals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Common thing as well in the icespeedway scene, especially with the Russians involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 the interviews with Woffinden and Zagar just showed the difference in class between the two of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 In heat 11, Kasprzak pushed Nicki to the outside, so Tai took the lead Later on, it looked like Tai gestured to Zmarzlik to block the inside so Nicki couldn't pass. Is it possible that Tai talked to the Poles before hand and got them to help him win the heat? KK hasn't got the confidence to be doing anything but ride his own race right now. And don't forget that last weekend Tai had a spat with KK after a race himself. TBH I didn't think KKs move on Nicki was anywhere near as bad as some of Nickis 2nd bends over the years. As for Zmarzlik, I saw that as him realising it wasn't Nicki behind him and just trying to keep Nicki well back and probably knowing it would get people talking That said, I've no doubt what so ever that over the years riders have helped others out in a time of need. Joe Screen let Mark Loram around him very easily at Bydgoszcz in 2000 the night Mark won the title for a start. Right now Tai doesn't really need help from friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Tai and Bartosz are team mates in Sweden. Tai was clearly just telling him to stay on the inside and he'd hold his position and keep Nicki back. As for KK doing anyone favors .. dear me. As SCB says he and Tai had a spat just last week. the interviews with Woffinden and Zagar just showed the difference in class between the two of them. Do explain further... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Tai and Bartosz are team mates in Sweden. Tai was clearly just telling him to stay on the inside and he'd hold his position and keep Nicki back. As for KK doing anyone favors .. dear me. As SCB says he and Tai had a spat just last week. Do explain further... Zagar in not his first language conducted the live interview in a thoroughly professional manner and rightly succinctly put what him and his fellow riders had gone through in the past week. Woffinden swore twice on live television and showed no remorse at all for doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Zagar in not his first language conducted the live interview in a thoroughly professional manner and rightly succinctly put what him and his fellow riders had gone through in the past week. Woffinden swore twice on live television and showed no remorse at all for doing so. Whoopy doo! Perhaps Zagar could consider that when he quite deliberately slows and callously throws his back wheel out with force to deliberately put a rider over a fence ... He also showed no remorse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Whoopy doo! Perhaps Zagar could consider that when he quite deliberately slows and callously throws his back wheel out with force to deliberately put a rider over a fence ... He also showed no remorse. That`s cr*p and you know it !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Woffinden swore twice on live television and showed no remorse at all for doing so. God some people are such sensitive little flowers! Niamh Edited September 2, 2015 by Niamh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) That`s cr*p and you know it !!!!!! What is crap. It is ABSOLUTE 100% FACT. I was there, I witnessed it. Buzz Burrows was his 'victim'. I'll take a rider saying a couple of 'swear' words over another that deliberately set out to harm another all day long. Each to their own though. Edited September 2, 2015 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 In heat 11, Kasprzak pushed Nicki to the outside, so Tai took the lead Later on, it looked like Tai gestured to Zmarzlik to block the inside so Nicki couldn't pass. Is it possible that Tai talked to the Poles before hand and got them to help him win the heat? I was at Gorzow and thought I was seeing things as Woffinden was in the lead and then put his left hand out to signal to the rider behind to take the inside.Very strange,seen it in team events but never an individual one,something going on somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 What is crap. It is ABSOLUTE 100% FACT. I was there, I witnessed it. Buzz Burrows was his 'victim'. I'll take a rider saying a couple of 'swear' words over another that deliberately set out to harm another all day long. Each to their own though. I've spoken to Buzz about this and he reckons it was the most dangerous act he'd ever seen/been victim of on a speedway track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I've spoken to Buzz about this and he reckons it was the most dangerous act he'd ever seen/been victim of on a speedway track. I've never seen anything worse. The only time I can 100% say it was a totally deliberate attempt to injure another rider. Buzz could easily have ended up like Darcy and many other unfortunate riders, such as Mads Gregoric, who barely anybody is mentioning anywhere. Edited September 2, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I've spoken to Buzz about this and he reckons it was the most dangerous act he'd ever seen/been victim of on a speedway track. And Buzz has been involved in a fair few crashes over the years too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 That`s cr*p and you know it !!!!!! I've spoken to Buzz about this and he reckons it was the most dangerous act he'd ever seen/been victim of on a speedway track. So does Buzz Burrows know its cr*p as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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