stratton Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 As a general rule I agree, but this is a pretty special set of circumstances. The four letter word that stood out for me was "Love"- great that sportspeople are not afraid to express man-love. Is anyone actually offended by the f word these days. Most kids know it, and if not it would have washed right over them. My six year old told my 4 year old the other day " I've figured out what the f word is." Loud whisper "it's " fool!"" Correct and everybody Is different,what puzzles me eaces1" is Hancock shows that other side the other week in the incident with Pedersen.He gets killed for that, he also gets branded a boring personality and a gating tart the bloke can't seem to win with some of us not me of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Tai's first ride in this meeting was ridiculous good it was unreal especially early on in the meeting where the grip is usually scarce. That ride alone deserves a world title and IMO only a few riders ever could have done that and won that heat like he did. Trust me watch that heat again. I felt the same re Heat 13 (the pass on Zagar) it was comparable to a ride by Woffinden at Sheffield the year he won the PLRC. He has an ability at times to race a track in a way it hasn’t been raced by other riders, he also has an amazing talent in that you can see where and how he is going to pass a rider almost 2 laps before he does, which doesn’t make it any less stunning when he actually carries the move off. Re him swearing, so what, in a week when a man he is a close friend with has been left hospitalised his emotions will evidently be running high, I would doubt what he is saying on TV is of much importance to him just now, I would have expected people to be more understanding of the current circumstance and strains currently on the likes of Woffinden. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think people who feel the need to swear when getting their point across just lack vocabulary... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I think people who feel the need to swear when getting their point across just lack vocabulary...Emotion maybe does that.? Edited August 31, 2015 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think people who feel the need to swear when getting their point across just lack vocabulary... Swear words are included in vocabulary as a whole, if you want to restrict your vocabulary to exclude them that is your choice Niamh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I and many others can express themselves emotionally, show man love etc without the need to swear. If someone can not string a a few words together to form a sentance without having swear words included then I feel they are lacking something. When very young you expect parents to chastise their children if they swore, yet somehow it becomes acceptable when one is older. I dont accept that. If you let standards of decency to drop in any one area and accept it, can we really complain when standards drop in other areas. If someone came up to you and your wife and started feeing and blinding, would you accept it. I wouldn't/couldn't So why should I accept it on TV especially when its a family sport that I am viewing. And that's why the presenters keep apologising for those occasions speedways top sportsmen swear. What they do in the pits or their own life is up to them, but it is not acceptable in public and that includes TV interviews. Edited August 31, 2015 by Joe Hatton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think people who feel the need to swear when getting their point across just lack vocabulary... f@#%ing tw@t 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I and many others can express themselves emotionally, show man love etc without the need to swear. So you choose to only use a subset of the English language. Why do you wish to restrict others and prevent them from using a word that's been part of the language for over 400 years- "what is the origin of the word f**k? Originally, this was a quite acceptable word! It was recorded in a dictionary in 1598" Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Some of Doyle's moves last night were" hard and dangerous" not "hard but fair" IMO .Has had a few in the last few Gp's . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I agree, Fromafar. If I was were other riders I would be keeping a keen eye whenever I rode with Doyle or Kildemand. Since Nickis wrestling match with Greg he seems to have calmed down. Take Zagar for instance, he has two bad crashes in the last two GP's, both involved NP as well, but neither was Nicki the problem. First of all Kildemand, then Doyle. If these things carry on there is going to be another serious injury, which no one wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I thought that in his first race Tai proved that he is the best rider in the world at the moment and could well go on to be one of the best of all time. His ability to find grip and set up a pass from any part of the track is unbelievable. Recently I have thought his attitude on TV had improved a great deal and was very disappointed with the swearing. Like most I swear at work and use those same words all the time but I wouldn't do so in a room full of kids or older people which is effectively what he did. The first one was understandable the second one arrogance in my opinion. If he were to start his next GP interview with an apology he would impress those who feel like myself and undo any harm I'm sure. Good GP with some very hard racing, good job it wasn't NP pulling some of those moves as this topic would be 100 pages by now :-) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) OK OK OK OK OK Tai was wrong to say it but come on people, he wanted to ram home his point, his feeling for Darcy and that is how he chose to do it, we all say the f word at times and usually for the same reason. There are some righteous folk on this thread, let's leave it and think of Darcy Ward who is suffering at the moment ..... One more thing, no Doyle isn't getting the slamming that Nicki would have got for that move he did, only reason being NP has had a whole career of making moves like that, Doyley is only now showing his repertoire off .... Edited August 31, 2015 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ok ok. It's a naughty swear word. Why are people getting so precious about it?FFS, much bigger things have happened in the last week. That was his point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Woffys look, his attitude and now the swearing though is pretty "cool". Unlike Hancocks trying to be cool but not realising it's not 1970s America now and he just looks like a prick. Being a little edgy and naughty, being the lad that if a young girl took home to meet her parents that her parents would be a little shocked is exactly what we need. Not boring "nice" guys. They don't sell. My sister has a major crush on Woffy, she likes the tattoos, piercings, the arrogance etc. there probably a lot of 20-something women thinking the same. When was the last time speedway had a World Champion with any sex appeal? 1982, around about the last time my mum cared about speedway! So Greg Hancock wears Darcy Wards colours as a tribute to his good friend, and that makes him in your opinion, 'look like a prick'. Well I guess that tells us something about the kind of person you are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamfj Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 FFS, Woffy used a naughty word, aren't there more pressing matters within the speedway world at the moment? Maybe when British speedway isn't heading to oblivion, there aren't any riders with catastrophic injuries and the GPs have the best 15 riders in the world maybe then someone saying a rude word is something to be so wound up about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Take F1 as an example, recently and sadly one of the F1 "family" dies because of serious injuries sustained in 2014, Jules Bianchi. I never heard any interviews with F1 drivers include swear words, in fact never heard any swear words on any of the interviews on F1 over the years. Yet F1 gets masses of sponsorship and plenty of TV time. Just this morning speaking to a friend of ours, her daughter just moving out of the home they had owned for a few years. They invested money into it, new bathroom, new kitchen etc, yet they moving out Why?. Next door neighbour not only noisy, but the noise is the shouting of the young mother to her young kids. Not just shouting though - swearing including regular use of the F word. THAT could be the acceptable norm in a few years time. Are you ready for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) No offense Joe but that's a separate issue. Tai did something a bit out of character and wasn't his greatest moment but everyone is allowed a slip up. In every other way he's acted exemplary so let's forgive him on this one and just appreciate watching an absolute genius at work which he really is at the moment. And by the way what a GP that was. I was fearful after the first 2 rounds but since then been a cracking series. Edited August 31, 2015 by PNYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) So Greg Hancock wears Darcy Wards colours as a tribute to his good friend, and that makes him in your opinion, 'look like a prick'. Well I guess that tells us something about the kind of person you are. Where have I said that? What makes him look a prick is standing on screen wearing them stupid flat peak monsters caos holding a can of monster 6 inches from his face and grinning like a retarded gimp. I actually like the thing he's doing with his kevlars this season. Edited August 31, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Still a bit harsh bud.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 If someone came up to you and your wife and started feeing and blinding, would you accept it. I wouldn't/couldn't It would surely depend on context and circumstance. If they were a random drunk simply swearing they would be told to go forth and multiply. If it was someone who had just witnessed an accident and were in a state of shock I would probably be understanding. One thing though, neither the possible scenario, nor the situation with your neighbour have a thing to do with Woffinden conveying his emotion of the tragic situation of his close friend, in such circumstances who the hell is anyone to tell someone how they should or shouldn’t act, or how they should feel. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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