lino wolf Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm fed up with struggling to get decent guests because we ride on Saturdays. I'm hoping when Coventry shut that we can use Friday nights as our race night. What a moronic statement !! Ithink you need some therapy my son !! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 So that's what the interval is for... I'm glad at least your dog enjoys it  So... I'm walking up the hill in the rain approaching the stadium and I can already hear the announcer banging on about the bloody interval, there's a 15 minute delay to let the rain clear, fair enough. Quite a long delay after heat 9 for Leicester to blade all the dirt off the track, that didn't really need it as it had been alright up until that point, I wonder if the fact that they were 8 points down at the time had anything to do with it... then a bloody interval as well after heat 11. All the shale dumped on the outside of the track seemed to cause 2 accidents involving Hall and Lawson, how the ref allowed it is beyond me?!? The ref didn't have a great night at all getting the exclusion wrong in Heat 12, there was also another incident that the ref missed, I can't remember the heat number (6?) when the rider in red definitely left the track after an unsatisfactory start yet wasn't excluded...  At least there wasn't a sun delay I believe that the referee asked for the work to be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 So Lakeside's team was allowed to race illegally and Leicester should most definitely have ridden under protest. Lakeside weren't allowed to,race illegally. The fact that the referee allowed it makes it legal unless and until there is a successful appeal on the point. As had been said already if Norrie Allen doesn't like it he has his remedy and should put his money where his mouth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Lakeside weren't allowed to,race illegally. The fact that the referee allowed it makes it legal unless and until there is a successful appeal on the point. As had been said already if Norrie Allen doesn't like it he has his remedy and should put his money where his mouth is. The referee didnt allow it - the BSPA did!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I believe that the referee asked for the work to be done! Wouldn't it be nice though if the fans were informed what was happening instead of just hanging around watching umpteen laps by the tractor with a bit of music playing in the background? I'm pretty sure if I had counted I saw more of these than laps by speedway bikes which I had paid to watch and the dog wasn't much company as she was asleep. This isn't just a criticism of Leicester as it happens at Coventry too and no doubt other tracks. Not that it will bother me now as I won't be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm fed up with struggling to get decent guests because we ride on Saturdays. I'm hoping when Coventry shut that we can use Friday nights as our race night. Â What's stopping Leicester riding Friday nights now?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Coventry I should think. Only about 20 miles apart and quite a few people like to go to both tracks so I wouldn't think Coventry would be very keen on Leicester riding on a Friday night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Presumably Leicester lodged their official protest - with fee - before the meeting began and then rode 'under protest', rather than wait until they lost?! You can't appeal riding orders that the SCB have sanctioned. And the SCB let the BSPA sanction it on their behalf. All totally wrong and you can see why Norrie was pissed off. Â Seems a joke to me that you can only appeal before someone cheats. Which basically gives clubs/riders the chance to cheat as if thy're not caught before they do it, they get away with it! Â I cant believe people are having a go at Norrie or justifying this. Lakesides team was illegal and the BSPA allowed it! And the SCB allowed them to allow it. Whats the point of a rule book if the people who manage the rulebook let the BSPA do as they damn well like? Edited August 5, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 You can't appeal riding orders that the SCB have sanctioned. And the SCB let the BSPA sanction it on their behalf. All totally wrong and you can see why Norrie was pissed off. Â Seems a joke to me that you can only appeal before someone cheats. Which basically gives clubs/riders the chance to cheat as if thy're not caught before they do it, they get away with it! Â I cant believe people are having a go at Norrie or justifying this. Lakesides team was illegal and the BSPA allowed it! And the SCB allowed them to allow it. Whats the point of a rule book if the people who manage the rulebook let the BSPA do as they damn well like? I am presuming that Norrie or somebody from the Lions challenged the SCB/BSPA decision as soon as it was known about. if so does anybody know what was the reason given by the SCB/BSPA for blatantly approving a breach of the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Probably the rule that states 'In the best interests of speedway'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Lakeside weren't allowed to,race illegally. The fact that the referee allowed it makes it legal unless and until there is a successful appeal on the point. As had been said already if Norrie Allen doesn't like it he has his remedy and should put his money where his mouth is. Changes once teams are declared shouldn't be allowed, I can think of a couple of senior referees who don't allow it and that's clearly correct other than for injury or illness. Â Allen is just making excuses for what was a poor performance, Jesus when you get beaten at home by Lakeside surely things cannot get any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Changes once teams are declared shouldn't be allowed, I can think of a couple of senior referees who don't allow it and that's clearly correct other than for injury or illness. Allen is just making excuses for what was a poor performance, Jesus when you get beaten at home by Lakeside surely things cannot get any worse. Inconsistent decisions are once again at the root of it. According to today's SS Allen says he tried to to the same thing himself against Coventry earlier in the season but wasn't allowed, so bending the rules is ok if he can get away with it but not if someone else does it. Â The trouble is that Allens account in SS now tries l implicate Garry Havelock in saying it's OK and Graham Reeve as not objecting if the opposing team agree , so it's all it has really done is muddy the waters instead of clarifying a anything. Bottom line is the sport looks bad all round when the rules are applied inconsistently, or at least appears to be, but worse than that the Golden rule of any business is not to wash your dirty linen in public. That's what Norrie Allen has done and has come out of it looking worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 So Peterborough had to keep Ostergaard (Wells as guest) at number 2 at Edinburgh last night and keep r/r for Grondal at 5. Â Odd. Surely the BSPA should have allowed them to swap it around?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Whilst Speedway in the UK is self-governed, nothing will change, except whence the big hitting promotors deem it necessary for the benefit of UK speedway Ltd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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