Rye House V Newcastle... 1st August 7pm

[Arson fire]

Yes, seeing is believing, it took him exactly one heat to fathom out Brough, and after that you just were in awe of a sixteen year old with that much talent to ride in his manner. The next Tai or is he more akin to the raw Darcy?

yeah, for all those that call our track... That young lad embraced it that night and was top drawer. Edited August 2, 2015 by Arson fire

[cityrebel]

A better team would've beaten us tonight. Not quite on it. Lambert was superb. What a talent. Better than Tai at the same stage.

i have to agree with you shads, what a performance. He was so quick, will that 54.7 ever be beaten!

[acclennell]

I was, but you brought in the red herring of 'should have done this earlier'. It doesn't follow that cos other teams are signing riders that we must have been able to find one as well. Some of the recent signings have been for much higher average riders and even Castania has been available for awhile, and still only go a ride this late in the season.

As you say promoting isn't easy, everyone else knows all the answers. shame that.

There is never a correct time or formula for getting rid of a poor performing rider, it all depends. Can the team carry a rider who will come good, his injuries healing, a rider available to replace him, the demands of such a rider, your race night not acceptable to him, doesn't like your track, etc. Not easy, but if you keep the rider you are wrong for being too loyal, and if you get rid of them you can guarantee he will do 'better' in his next team and you got it wrong again. Critics are never wrong BTW.

Howay Dave get the rose tinted glasses off - this team never was strong enough before a wheel has even turned. The fact that it wasn't and that changes were not made at a much earlier stage is the reason why the team is in this position and crowds are massively down. I know you have bias towards the promotion and I also know you love your speedway no matter what also. Nothing wrong with that but it is in the main only a ever decreasing minority of die hards who are attending but in the long term it won't save the sport in Newcastle. You need a competitive team to attract the crowds and sorry but this one certainly isn't and never was from day one.

Edited August 1, 2015 by acclennell

[Alan Cooper]

Gastro enteritis

Is he the highly rated Italian? Got to be worth a gamble on a 3.00 for someone

[HadrianDog]

Newcastle will take him, cos in our currant state, up s**t creek would suit him very well. Still hope for a fight back before the season's end, but Alamo comes to mind and George aint no Davy Crocket, let alone Daryl playing Jim Bowie, though I believe he may have his knife into someone soon.

[Shadders]

Is he the highly rated Italian? Got to be worth a gamble on a 3.00 for someone

5.00

[robbieblackadder fan club]

Have you ever stopped to think why people stopped going to support your team

1 meetings take to long

2 presentation is average

3 team is poor

4 racing no where near as good ad it used to be

5 people sick of teams turning up full of guest or rider replacement

6 sick of loosing riders to doubling up

 

People say on hear only get a team u can afford,I get that but put together an attractive one from the start and you will attract the fans in..if u want to get me to come back put a decent team together to get me back instead of having a go for not coming..

There to many people on here that think they are always right and that there way is the only way and freedom of speech is no longer allowed

Edited August 1, 2015 by robbieblackadder fan club

[HadrianDog]

Have you ever stopped to think why people stopped going to support your team

1 meetings take to long

2 presentation is average

3 team is poor

4 racing no where near as good ad it used to be

5 people sick of teams turning up full of guest or rider replacement

6 sick of loosing riders to doubling up

 

People say on hear only get a team u can afford,I get that but put together an attractive one from the start and you will attract the fans in..if u want to get me to come back put a decent team together to get me back instead of having a go for not coming..

There to many people on here that think they are always right and that there way is the only way and freedom of speech is no longer allowed

Or in a nutshell, supply an attractive and entertaining product. Or in other words 'Build it and they will come' However you look at it, even success only attracts currant or lapsed fans. What we need is a way to drag the new punter off the street, preferably not of close to pensionable age. I now have to explain what our sport is to many people who ask 'what did you do last weekend' and even to those who know, it is a distant memory. I don't proclaim to know the answer, but more 'hearts and minds' is prob. what is needed. Our sport is seen as 'down market' now and 'working class'. Change the minds in corporate marketing and push our advertising. Do even our own corporate backers really push the club?. I would be lying if I said I had seen our club advertised anywhere. Yes I know there was that brill shot of Richie? hanging by his fingertips to his bike a couple of years back, but what since. We are about to enter the football {spit, gnarl etc.} season again and there goes our advertising window yet again. Has anyone thought of the screens in doctors waiting rooms? or the screens at Newcastle airport? Yes it costs money, but its shoe tread on the terraces we want, not an end to Brough Park as a speedway stadium. Sorry for the rant folks, but my passion for this sport has yet again reared its {poss. slightly drink fuelled} head.

[StevePark]

When was the last time a Track Record was broken in Heat 15?

 

We were up against it from the off and, had I known Simon had had to withdraw with illness, I might have thought twice about going down.

 

Oh well, onwards and upwards. 4 hours kip before getting up to go down to Peterborough for the Fours!

[Shadders]

When was the last time a Track Record was broken in Heat 15?

 

We were up against it from the off and, had I known Simon had had to withdraw with illness, I might have thought twice about going down.

 

Oh well, onwards and upwards. 4 hours kip before getting up to go down to Peterborough for the Fours!

That's nothing. Back into bed at 2.30am on Friday morning after Sheffield, up at 5.15am for a 12 hour shift at work

[semion]

Was this Lamberts first look at Hoddesdon ?

[ruffdiamond]

Connor mountain in for Neilsen.

So we signed Aarnio knowing his average would go down a point after one meeting?... And out of his 28 day contract he will miss meetings?......Geordie Masterstroke

well...id have made changes months ago, but at the time maybe castagna if available??...Before sheffield snapped him up... Aarnio lost 1.5 off his average after one meeting hampering our choice of guests when he was missing.

gotta agree there with Tero's average, strange one, I cant see the sense in that, maybe someone will explain,,, seemed like a good option to get Christian at reserve, but not just until the end of the month,,, hmmm

[Shadders]

Was this Lamberts first look at Hoddesdon ?

Apart from the LC meeting with Peterborough earlier in the season and the hundreds of laps he's done there since the age of 12, yes

[westhamboy66]

Bit sad to see that Chris Neath's name will no longer be in the programme. Was a dark day for Rye House when Chris was so badly injured at Ipswich and the club has yet to recover from his absence.

Robert Lambert showed that at 17 he is far too good for the Premier League and his showing last night was brilliant.

 

To complete the Edward Kennett farce last night anyone look at the side Lakeside tracked last night? The "Lakeside" team contained Chris Harris Hans Anderson Max Fricke and Richard Hall all guesting for Absent Lakeside riders. How ironic that one of the three remaining team that actually rode for Lakeside was Edward Kennett who really should have been riding for us last night. The Premier League is still the best option and i sincerely hope that we stay far away from the Elite joke league next year.

[acclennell]

Have you ever stopped to think why people stopped going to support your team

1 meetings take to long

2 presentation is average

3 team is poor

4 racing no where near as good ad it used to be

5 people sick of teams turning up full of guest or rider replacement

6 sick of loosing riders to doubling up

 

People say on hear only get a team u can afford,I get that but put together an attractive one from the start and you will attract the fans in..if u want to get me to come back put a decent team together to get me back instead of having a go for not coming..

There to many people on here that think they are always right and that there way is the only way and freedom of speech is no longer allowed

Totally spot on my thoughts to a t

[pablo133]

i think jonas b anderson would in hindsight been worth a go before he signed for redcar, for me the management was relyimg on riders to increase there average to be successfull, but when to drop a rider is difficult imo . i remember mark thoprpe years ago was a 5 point man and didnt progress , the fans were gutted when he re-signed but he changed to gm engines and doubled his average overnight, then theres the opposite with malcolm hogg who was out of his depth but rode for most of the season , this proves how difficult it is as a promoter to guess right, i think m lemon ws released at the right time as you could see he was goung down hill, but j grieves was released and shouldnt have been - but there must be lots going on behind the scenes that we are aware of, 2 more examples.

Maybe more groupon deals might help in the short term, who would be a promoter not me !

 

[Robinh88]

Newcastle generally get more right than wrong...

I did fancy the Diamonds pre season to make top 6 but I feel too much inconsistency and Steve Worrall though he has improved isn't a number one at this point...

[topsoil]

Or in a nutshell, supply an attractive and entertaining product. Or in other words 'Build it and they will come' However you look at it, even success only attracts currant or lapsed fans. What we need is a way to drag the new punter off the street, preferably not of close to pensionable age. I now have to explain what our sport is to many people who ask 'what did you do last weekend' and even to those who know, it is a distant memory. I don't proclaim to know the answer, but more 'hearts and minds' is prob. what is needed. Our sport is seen as 'down market' now and 'working class'. Change the minds in corporate marketing and push our advertising. Do even our own corporate backers really push the club?. I would be lying if I said I had seen our club advertised anywhere. Yes I know there was that brill shot of Richie? hanging by his fingertips to his bike a couple of years back, but what since. We are about to enter the football {spit, gnarl etc.} season again and there goes our advertising window yet again. Has anyone thought of the screens in doctors waiting rooms? or the screens at Newcastle airport? Yes it costs money, but its shoe tread on the terraces we want, not an end to Brough Park as a speedway stadium. Sorry for the rant folks, but my passion for this sport has yet again reared its {poss. slightly drink fuelled} head.

I've been to quite a few different sporting events over the summer, away from speedway and the one thing that has struck me is that each of the events offers a level of entertainment away from the actual sport. I've seen rugby league matches, rugby union, football and Twenty20 cricket. For example the rugby league had two fans from the respective teams racing the length of the pitch in zorba balls. Simple, yet it got the crowd involved. Twenty 20 had kids and adults bashing each other in the bumper balls, they were queueing up to take part. During the interval they had quizzes amongst the fans. Rugby union had mini games with kids. What I came away from these events was the thought that the actual sport, speedway, was no less spectacular or interesting than the other sports, but how often have you been to a long drawn out meeting, track grading and intervals and got bored?

Secondly advertising the sport. I cant speak for Newcastle, but my team Berwick let themselves down badly in this department and I have no doubt they are not alone. Very little if any work is done in this department. Maybe half a dozen posters in shop windows in the town centre and on Saturdays a small banner is hung up in the town centre. Apart from this you would have no idea speedway is on if it wasn't for the noise of the bikes. The usual excuse given from promotions is the cost involved. But they do not seem to grasp the potential return on investment if the sport is advertised and publicised far better. I've often thought that the money a lot of Elite League clubs waste on mediocre second string and reserves flown in each week could easily have been spent on a marketing campaign or even a sales rep (whatever the proper title would be) selling corporate and general sponsorship.

Speedway is very marketable, you have speed, danger, noise, fearless riders, you get right up close to a race at high speed and you have to be impressed. But if you aren't willing to invest, don't expect to receive a return.

[mudflaps]

Robert Lambert is box office!

[tyretrax]

Robert Lambert is box office!

If he turns up.