HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 If I'm the Hammer supporter you mean sorry if I upset anyone it was a genuine mistake on my part I wouldn't want to upset anyone I've not done many posts and got a bit confused over the thread, if its not me you are referring to sorry again put it down to old age creeping in. No not you and sorry if I was too cryptic in my reply to the real post. Connor mountain in for Neilsen. So we signed Aarnio knowing his average would go down a point after one meeting?... And out of his 28 day contract he will miss meetings?......Geordie Masterstroke Sarcastically accurate as always. Indeed another coup for the club. Still think he will be useful though. Any idea why Nielsen is missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Robert Lambert, what a guest. Thanks very much, someone who tried and won heat 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 So beaten by 20 points then. I like to think that the 15 point max. inc. breaking the track record twice from young Lambert was the deciding factor. I would guess that numbers alone don't tell the full story, so we wait and see if we were bad or just out done by a GB star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 As I said Robert Lambert hasn't got Eddies experience but he now has the Rye track record - well done to him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 A better team would've beaten us tonight. Not quite on it. Lambert was superb. What a talent. Better than Tai at the same stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Connor mountain in for Neilsen. So we signed Aarnio knowing his average would go down a point after one meeting?... And out of his 28 day contract he will miss meetings?......Geordie Masterstroke And you would have put in who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 A better team would've beaten us tonight. Not quite on it. Lambert was superb. What a talent. Better than Tai at the same stage. Shads, you sure know how to cheer up a losing teams fans. Sounds like yet another bad day at the office for our lads. And if nothing else, it bodes well for team GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Shads, you sure know how to cheer up a losing teams fans. Sounds like yet another bad day at the office for our lads. And if nothing else, it bodes well for team GB. I ain't gonna sugar coat it mate, Lindgren & Kerr apart you were poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 And you would have put in who ?well...id have made changes months ago, but at the time maybe castagna if available??...Before sheffield snapped him up... Aarnio lost 1.5 off his average after one meeting hampering our choice of guests when he was missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Was Nielsen's absence explained at all at the team presentations, cos he is in a good run recently- cert more than this Connor Mountain managed for us tonight. Mind you, if he came in at short notice, I applaud the lad for stepping up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Was Nielsen's absence explained at all at the team presentations, cos he is in a good run recently- cert more than this Connor Mountain managed for us tonight. Mind you, if he came in at short notice, I applaud the lad for stepping up.said he was unwell on updates i think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 well...id have made changes months ago, but at the time maybe castagna if available??...Before sheffield snapped him up... Aarnio lost 1.5 off his average after one meeting hampering our choice of guests when he was missing. So nobody you can think of then at the moment. Months go it could have ben suggested that Rose would not improve and possibly leave him out, especially as he wasn't scoring at EL level either. But they stuck with him and came good before his unfortunate crash. Or could it have been Simon who has recently come on a ton in recent meetings. Or could it have been Christian who might have got his form back, but for his crash. Or could it have been Kerr who is a shadow this year of what we expected him to be this year. Or could have been Anton...... Easy game this promoter lark innit. Was Nielsen's absence explained at all at the team presentations, cos he is in a good run recently- cert more than this Connor Mountain managed for us tonight. Mind you, if he came in at short notice, I applaud the lad for stepping up. Without knowing what was the reason, I see he has said sorry on Facebook(in a post to Steve Park) for not riding tonight. Did I not read he had gone back to Denmark a couple of weeks to rest up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Was Nielsen's absence explained at all at the team presentations, cos he is in a good run recently- cert more than this Connor Mountain managed for us tonight. Mind you, if he came in at short notice, I applaud the lad for stepping up.Gastro enteritis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Was Nielsen's absence explained at all at the team presentations, cos he is in a good run recently- cert more than this Connor Mountain managed for us tonight. Mind you, if he came in at short notice, I applaud the lad for stepping up. Gastronenteritis I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) So nobody you can think of then at the moment. Months go it could have ben suggested that Rose would not improve and possibly leave him out, especially as he wasn't scoring at EL level either. But they stuck with him and came good before his unfortunate crash. Or could it have been Simon who has recently come on a ton in recent meetings. Or could it have been Christian who might have got his form back, but for his crash. Or could it have been Kerr who is a shadow this year of what we expected him to be this year. Or could have been Anton...... Easy game this promoter lark innit. didnt realise we were talking about now, i thought you meant instead of aarnio when he signed!.... Ok Dave, you were a promoter, how long do you give riders that arnt doing well?? When do you say?? Hes a canny lad but not good enough?? You say rose and neilsen have come on a ton?? No theyve improved but only back to more or less where they where 4 months ago, rosen has gone backwards and so has henry!! Now thats not a slant on them but if most of your team is mot performing to standard or enough to win matches then you are knackered.... Yes money is tight i understand that, but we arnt the only ones strapped for cash, yet just about every team in the league has found riders out there, so to suggest there isnt is a myth... I dont think for one minute promoting is easy also, far from it. Did you ever drop a rider?? Edited August 1, 2015 by Arson fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 didnt realise we were talking about now, i thought you meant instead of aarnio when he signed!.... Ok Dave, you were a promoter, how long do you give riders that arnt doing well?? When do you say?? Hes a canny lad but not good enough?? You say rose and neilsen have come on a ton?? No theyve improved but only back to more or less where they where 4 months ago, rosen has gone backwards and so has henry!! Now thats not a slant on them but if most of your team is mot performing to standard or enough to win matches then you are knackered.... Yes money is tight i understand that, but we arnt the only ones strapped for cash, yet just about every team in the league has found riders out there, so to suggest there isnt is a myth... I dont think for one minute promoting is easy also, far from it. Did you ever drop a rider?? I was, but you brought in the red herring of 'should have done this earlier'. It doesn't follow that cos other teams are signing riders that we must have been able to find one as well. Some of the recent signings have been for much higher average riders and even Castania has been available for awhile, and still only go a ride this late in the season. As you say promoting isn't easy, everyone else knows all the answers. shame that. There is never a correct time or formula for getting rid of a poor performing rider, it all depends. Can the team carry a rider who will come good, his injuries healing, a rider available to replace him, the demands of such a rider, your race night not acceptable to him, doesn't like your track, etc. Not easy, but if you keep the rider you are wrong for being too loyal, and if you get rid of them you can guarantee he will do 'better' in his next team and you got it wrong again. Critics are never wrong BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Gastro enteritis Up here we call that by an ever so slightly shorter and easier to spell name. The S***s. Cheers for the answer though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) I was, but you brought in the red herring of 'should have done this earlier'. It doesn't follow that cos other teams are signing riders that we must have been able to find one as well. Some of the recent signings have been for much higher average riders and even Castania has been available for awhile, and still only go a ride this late in the season. As you say promoting isn't easy, everyone else knows all the answers. shame that. There is never a correct time or formula for getting rid of a poor performing rider, it all depends. Can the team carry a rider who will come good, his injuries healing, a rider available to replace him, the demands of such a rider, your race night not acceptable to him, doesn't like your track, etc. Not easy, but if you keep the rider you are wrong for being too loyal, and if you get rid of them you can guarantee he will do 'better' in his next team and you got it wrong again. Critics are never wrong BTW. no red herring?? You asked a question and i answerd it?? And no its not i easy i dont doubt that one bit.... But is a fan not allowed to ask a question?? Are they there just to put up and shut up or something?? You are a fan, you are a supporter.... you were a promoter, taking that hat off, is it unacceptable to want or expect better? Is it unacceptable to question decisions or do we all just have to go with the flow?? ... Did you drop mick powell?? If so, why?? Edited August 1, 2015 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Never been a great fan of Lambert, but tonight was one of if the best performance I have seen at Rye (first meeting 1976). Well done young man.an extraordinary performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Never been a great fan of Lambert, but tonight was one of if the best performance I have seen at Rye (first meeting 1976). Well done young man.an extraordinary performance. Yes, seeing is believing, it took him exactly one heat to fathom out Brough, and after that you just were in awe of a sixteen year old with that much talent to ride in his manner. The next Tai or is he more akin to the raw Darcy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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