The White Knight Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Another good Post acclennell. Again I agree with most of what you say. I would argue that Newcastle are actually one of the better Promoted Clubs - but apart from that and the Tactical Substitute you are dead right. I would not have the Tactical Ride or the Tactical Substitute. Let Teams live or die by the actual Points that they score. I love the idea of the 4TT and why not an Individual Meeting as well. I used to enjoy those too. None of this will happen though - SKY Television dictate the Rules of our Sport these days, not the FIM, SCB or the BSPA. They say all these silly Rules are better for the Television Viewer - that may be so - but they are slowly killing the Sport with said Rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Another good Post acclennell. Again I agree with most of what you say. I would argue that Newcastle are actually one of the better Promoted Clubs - but apart from that and the Tactical Substitute you are dead right. I would not have the Tactical Ride or the Tactical Substitute. Let Teams live or die by the actual Points that they score. I love the idea of the 4TT and why not an Individual Meeting as well. I used to enjoy those too. None of this will happen though - SKY Television dictate the Rules of our Sport these days, not the FIM, SCB or the BSPA. They say all these silly Rules are better for the Television Viewer - that may be so - but they are slowly killing the Sport with said Rules. Do you think speedway would be better off, without 'sky ' and any money it puts in ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. but you get 90+ minutes of action and excitement,,, it's even better if someone scores a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 but you get 90+ minutes of action and excitement,,, it's even better if someone scores a goal I would not go that far,the ball is not in play that long,like sunderland scoring last seasonpriced food& beer etc would rather watch non league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I would not go that far,the ball is not in play that long,like sunderland scoring last seasonpriced food& beer etc would rather watch non league. I wouldn't go that far either, and don't, but maybe a lot of people do, because others do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulS Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. Speedway is *relatively* a cheap night out, especially compared to PL football (also, can you imagine Toon players mingling with the fans and doing autographs and selfies after a match?!!) As a lad I used to enjoy going to the East Corner with my mates for just a few quid admission, but the Taylor Report and Sky money changed things somewhat. Of course I will never forget King Kev's entertainers, but... Football has become a greedy, cash-hungry ogre where being an average PL player will net you a staggering £30K a week. Plenty of Speedway riders can but dream of making that in a SEASON... But of course football has cleverly styled itself as 'The Beautiful Game'. Really? Players writhing in faked agony every time an opponent brushes against them, and of course the ball has a tendency to be out of play much of the time, so 90 minutes of action is a fallacy. Don't get me wrong, great sport, fun to play and at least watchable, but why should this bloated cash-hungry ogre get pride of place at the table while other sports are reduced to scrapping over the crumbs? I think this is more a general speedway problem more than just at brough.... I think people are just so sick with the daft rules etc people are starting to vote with there feet. I've been going to Newcastle since it re-opened in 97 been to loads of away meetings too and until this season I never missed a meeting. I went to the first 3 or 4 this season and I haven't been back since. Yes the team isn't the best but by no means is it the worst we've had! But the entertainment value for me is virtually non existent now I don't know if this ties in with the new silencers but there isn't/ wasn't much racing at the meetings I attended this season or last season for that matter. Now I'm only 25 and I'm pretty bored with speedway now there used to be a time id not miss a meeting but they seem long gone. And speedway needs a new fan base because most of the fans are elderly people. It's tough because kids nowadays would rather be playing on the playstations or Xbox rather than go to speedway. This is a crucial winter for speedway and now more than ever do the promoters need to realise this! If you didn't know what speedway was you wouldn't have a clue in most cities because it's one of the worst promoted sports. It's definitely one of the worst promoted sports. Couple of examples: 1. Lad at my local corner shop asked where I work. Turns out he thought my Newcastle Speedway polo was staff uniform for a karting track rather than my desperate attempts to be a walking advertising board. 2. Usually-very-bright lass at work thought Newcastle Speedway was some kind of public track I could pootle my little YBR125 around for fun, rather than a place to watch professional riders tear around on 500cc brakeless methanol bikes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Cos that's just the way it is,,, 'supply and demand' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Aye you have to watch, I had the temerity to put on a welcome to Newcastle Tero post on this thread the other day, which already has caused upset. He's a friend, and you help friends when they need help, did the same for Adrian when he went to Workington, and glad i could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclennell Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I do not see how you can pay to watch NUFC play for between £30 to£40& call that value,considering the speedway is far less .I do however like your other comments. Thing is it is not about NUFC and comparisons shouldn't be made as the football team is like a religion up here - what I did say is that the football team is my true number 1 passion and that will never change. 99% of people (if not more) in Newcastle would choose NUFC over the Diamonds if there was a straight choice between the two on which one to attend. It's about how to get more fans into the speedway and to get people like me to go back and new people to come. I went to both for 15 years as I said and currently in my opinion the Newcastle team and the speedway rules as well as the farce the way the meeting was run the two times I have been; have meant that I'm not going back until changes are made. This is all about my views on why I don't think speedway will continue in Newcastle unless big changes are made and a few of my own thoughts as to what speedway should do in general to improve the sport (i.e. turn back the clock). Sky viewing is also down and I would not be surprised in the future if that doesn't stop either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Do you think speedway would be better off, without 'sky ' and any money it puts in ??? In some ways - YES. The price is too high - their stupid Rules and wanting things done their way is wrecking the Sport. They have far too much influence in the way the Sport is run. They are a Television Company - not Speedway Promoters. Don't worry - as soon as SKY thinks that Speedway has outlived it usefulness they will drop it ( they dropped the GPs) without any thought for you, me or anyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) In some ways - YES. The price is too high - their stupid Rules and wanting things done their way is wrecking the Sport. They have far too much influence in the way the Sport is run. They are a Television Company - not Speedway Promoters. Don't worry - as soon as SKY thinks that Speedway has outlived it usefulness they will drop it ( they dropped the GPs) without any thought for you, me or anyone else. although I do watch speedway on 'Sky', when it's on, always record it for others,,, I would say that, they do an ok job, there's plenty worse things on telly, but I don't think 'speedway on telly' is anywhere near watching it live,,, anyway,,, this is turning out to be a long 'Newcastle v Scunthorpe' thread Edited July 22, 2015 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 although I do watch speedway on 'Sky', when it's on, always record it for others,,, I would say that, they do an ok job, there's plenty worse things on telly, but I don't think 'speedway on telly' is anywhere near watching it live,,, anyway,,, this is turning out to be a long 'Newcastle v Scunthorpe' thread I think we have drifted off the main Topic RD. Good Discussion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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