ScottSquirell Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 At 1.45mins into the footage Tungate grabs a big handful of throttle, he then clatters in to Auty. Tungate carrying so much speed that he is still sideways half way down the back straight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Seems a friendly crowd on the start line from the Youtube videos, maybe they are scaring others from attending Scunny! If that's evidence to make things clearer, god help us! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I've watched it 3 times and I really can't see that! Looks like he maintains a consistent speed. I think he priobably just wanted to get back to the pits as soon as possible to see if he get back on his other bike that was a bit tangled up from the heat 10 crash. Thanks to Broadsider for the uploads - I actually missed the incident at the time. What a load of b*****ks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 At 1.45mins into the footage Tungate grabs a big handful of throttle, he then clatters in to Auty. Tungate carrying so much speed that he is still sideways half way down the back straight! So again - what happens if Rohan shuts off at that point rather than give it some more?? Answer - he would straighten up and plough into Auty rather than just hit his front wheel. Unfortunate accident and nothing more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 That's totally correct bruv, maybe some of these posters don't realise what happens to a bike when it's shut off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I had birds eye view of the incident and that coward intended to knock auty off..whilst riders are racing you have to do what you have to do to win points..BUT after the RACING has finished and do what he did is absolutely disgraceful!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Some normally decent ippo posters, talking absolute biased bollox here like.... Howay lads ffs Edited July 18, 2015 by Arson fire 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Not brilliant angles so all I can conclude is that Auty in first running and Tungate after re run were reckless, no way can that video prove or disprove whether it was deliberate. As for Morriss having his foot near Lunna's head - definitely not proven on that evidence. Even Bobby Ott couldn't have managed that and he got into the most amazing shapes riding a speedway bike whilst fully in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Not brilliant angles so all I can conclude is that Auty in first running and Tungate after re run were reckless, no way can that video prove or disprove whether it was deliberate. As for Morriss having his foot near Lunna's head - definitely not proven on that evidence. Even Bobby Ott couldn't have managed that and he got into the most amazing shapes riding a speedway bike whilst fully in control. Bobby Ott What a Legend. One of my very first Speedway Heroes with Stekkers and Paul Thorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Star lady I had the best angle in the house and he purposely put the gas on to knock him off simple as that !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 So what is your take on the original staging of the race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Nothing to see here.... move along! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 And let's remember, the engine in the bike used in the re-run is his Ipswich engine, flat as (pardon the pun) a witches twit. First time he'd ridden it that night so not set up and will shoot forward when the throttle is shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Not read the entire thread but just watched the videos and would only say that if you knock someone off "accidentally" after a race has finished surely you don't just head off back to the pits but you at least stop to see if the other rider is ok (different during a race as you know racing incidents occur). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimmy Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Admit that auty was lucky not to be excluded but it was a racing incident nothing more ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Some normally decent ippo posters, talking absolute biased bollox here like.... Howay lads ffs i was ready to give Rohan both barrels if the pictures matched the words but genuinely dont think they do.On updates from the initial descriptions myself Baldy and others roundly condemned his actions. Now it looks liked the pudding had been severely over egged. Now Rohan MAY have meant it - only he really knows - but from those videos there is nothing conclusive enough to not give him the benefit of the doubt IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu219 Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 just watched the utube clips and i have to say that there is no way anyone can say that Tungate deliberately rode into Auty. He neither sped up or slowed down. Anyone who thinks different was watching a different video clip to me. Obviously only Rohan knows for sure but on that evidence it looks like no case to answer. As for the first staging it looked like Auty moved across Tungate but from the angles we can see even then its not 100% clear. what is clear is the appalling language of the supporters we can hear. That will really encourage family's to come and watch! Certainly was an entertaining evening by the sounds of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I'm pretty well known for giving rohan some stick, but lately he doesn't warrant any of it. Again on this occasion I don't think he really does much wrong. In fact I'm growing to like his racing now it has more of an edge to it, and long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I suggest people watch it in slow motion!! As i said earlier even with video everyone will see it different 1st video exactly as i described tungate went across to the outside blocking josh who cut back with more speed and went past and there was some contact racing incident The third video is hard to see anything but there are 2 frames just before they go behind the fence which show ash`s foot going out and up but then the shots are too blurry due to the speed and frame rate/ The main incident you can clearly see in slow motion that tungate sees auty all the way around the bend and actually adjusts to go out at him (around when he goes behind the post) taking him straight across him flicking his back wheel. Now all this about shutting off is dangerous is irrelevant a PL rider with it wound on going around that bend will not hit a rider they can see all the way round the bend like that . The panic and rush to get off after gives away that he knows he just messed up by hitting auty rather than just cut him off I'm pretty well known for giving rohan some stick, but lately he doesn't warrant any of it. Again on this occasion I don't think he really does much wrong. In fact I'm growing to like his racing now it has more of an edge to it, and long may it continue. The racing he did apart from that few seconds was superb the same as he was last week, he looked every bit the number 1 witches fans moaned he isnt/wasnt last season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 i was ready to give Rohan both barrels if the pictures matched the words but genuinely dont think they do. On updates from the initial descriptions myself Baldy and others roundly condemned his actions. Now it looks liked the pudding had been severely over egged. Now Rohan MAY have meant it - only he really knows - but from those videos there is nothing conclusive enough to not give him the benefit of the doubt IMO. I have watched over and over and looking at the clip I don't anyone can say whether or not what Tungate did was intentional or not. Looking at the first video clip I would say the referee bottled it by bring all 4 back. It was not first bend bunching as they were on the beginning of straight. The clip with Morris and Lunna proves nothing as you cannot see a thing. But if you are going to use the clip of the re-run with Auty/ Tungate then I would say it proves nothing due to distance away from the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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