dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 For those questioning the actions of Godfrey, Lunna & Morris, the following is a quote from Speedway Star; "Referee Clarke said: 'The sit-in, as far as I was concerned, was just a bit of theatre for the crowd. It only lasted a few seconds so I had a chat to Rob after the meeting and that's as far as it goes. Nike Lunna and Ashley Morris were also fined the maximum £200 for fighting on the track." Actually IMO thats probably how it should be viewed - a bit of theatre for the crowd is what the sport needs. Far to often now all things in life are 'sanitised' to appease very dull people with no sense of expression!! However thats not what the rulebook says and whilst officials can pick and choose which parts to apply there will always be issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.29233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Probably as expected. The video makes it look obvious it was done with intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 who is a silly boy then baldyman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Is this setting a dangerous precedence,will video evidence be used to determine who cause crashes and issue them with bans when reviewed by BSPA after the event if a Promoter files a complaint.Tungate appears to have been out of order but like other posters comment that has happened before.Auty is no angel on occasions I have seen him ride but that's Speedway and it is a dangerous sport. Would have loved to have seen video footage of the night Auty ended Kenny Ingalls speedway career at Workington, . Tungate out of order ut Auty is by no means an innocent party !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 THE Speedway Control Bureau have issued a statement following an incident during the Scunthorpe v Ipswich Premier League match on Friday July 17;[/size]For publication after 12 noon: Friday 24th July 2015. [/size]Release Date: Thursday 23rd July 2015.[/size]SCUNTHORPE V IPSWICH (Friday 17th July 2015) [/size]At the above Meeting Rohan Tungate was involved in an after Heat incident (the re-run of Heat 10), whereby Josh Auty was knocked off his motorcycle at the start of the back straight. Auty suffered an injury; the extent of which is still not known, as his arm/hand is still badly swollen. [/size]Immediately following this incident, which was unseen by the Referee and Clerk of Course, the Referee interviewed Tungate and others in the Pits to establish what had occurred. [/size]As a consequence of what Tungate told him, a £200 fine was levied upon him based upon his plea that it was purely an accident. [/size]Since then the SCB received a complaint and video evidence of the incident. In accordance with SR 3.3.2.2. the SCB Prime Officer viewed the video and made further enquiries of the Meeting Referee. The Referee is clearly of the view that the video evidence does not support Tungate’s mitigation of slowing down and being unable to avoid hitting Auty. [/size]Accordingly in accordance with SR 3.3.2.3 Tungate is given a 21-day Suspension of his SCB Registration (and a notification to his FMN). This Suspension, formally agreed by 3 SCB Officers takes effect from tomorrow, Friday 24th July. [/size]Tungate has a Right of Appeal under SR 3.4.7 to the SCB Court. [/size]Issued by: Graham Reeve, [/size]SCB Prime Officer [/size]Rugby, 23rd July 2015[/size] the above just appeared on the the sgb website So why has the SCB avoided taking action against masters ? Does it help having harkness as your boss? If so its wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 CD's don't stick as often as vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Pity Auty won't be on the Heath next week. Will really miss him not being there. Put the order for extra fence panels on hold till next year? Edited July 24, 2015 by Roland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Duppcomic Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 For all that the video shows what it does, I think this sets really dangerous precedent. Consider this. If it was Auty who had taken revenge on Tungate for something, would the video evidence have been forthcoming? it is far more likely that a race will be recorded by a home fan given the ratio of home to away support and not many home fans would want to convict their own rider. Also is the reason that the Masters / Bjerre incident hasn't been reviewed on video is because the people videoing the meetings at Edinburgh would quite like to be invited back every week? Would GRT media supply video that showed a Newcastle Berwick Worky or Sheffield rider breaking the rules? Would rerun do the same at Ipswich etc etc Given that every meeting is not on official video then IMO NO video should be used (unless it's on TV) to convict a rider if the ref misses an incident. It just is not fair or consistent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 That's a great point. I doubt the video would have been forthcoming if it was the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 For all that the video shows what it does, I think this sets really dangerous precedent. Consider this. If it was Auty who had taken revenge on Tungate for something, would the video evidence have been forthcoming? it is far more likely that a race will be recorded by a home fan given the ratio of home to away support and not many home fans would want to convict their own rider. Also is the reason that the Masters / Bjerre incident hasn't been reviewed on video is because the people videoing the meetings at Edinburgh would quite like to be invited back every week? Would GRT media supply video that showed a Newcastle Berwick Worky or Sheffield rider breaking the rules? Would rerun do the same at Ipswich etc etc Given that every meeting is not on official video then IMO NO video should be used (unless it's on TV) to convict a rider if the ref misses an incident. It just is not fair or consistent. Could lead to a rather large can of worms being opened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Rohan-Tungate-given-21-day-ban-incident/story-27478266-detail/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 That's a great point. I doubt the video would have been forthcoming if it was the other way round. Why do you think they haven't posted the video of the incident with Carl Wilkinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Is this setting a dangerous precedence,will video evidence be used to determine who cause crashes and issue them with bans when reviewed by BSPA after the event if a Promoter files a complaint.Tungate appears to have been out of order but like other posters comment that has happened before.Auty is no angel on occasions I have seen him ride but that's Speedway and it is a dangerous sport.Im just an imbecile by looks of itWhat have the BSPA got to do with it-see post 587 !!!!Looks like I am an imbecile then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young51 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 scunthorpe won't get away with their petulant childish antics and Chris Louis when interviewed tonight said there was a lot more to come but couldn't yet say what. I'm still waiting to see what sort of action Sam Masters faces for doing something far worse. Do you actually think before you type?Yet more paranoid ramblings ..you seem to think this is some sort of (pardon the pun) Ippo Witchunt and that it's the evil Monarchs Empire running the BSPA/SCB ITV BBC etc etc..Your rider Mr Tungate was tried got found out and punished but you're trying to turn this around and blame everyone when it's a rider from your team, who through his actions broke another riders arm.Some on here have even inferred that because it was Josh Auty he had it coming to him.. Dearo dear thats sad..one thing i will say Mr Lily Savagewitch is that your posts are at least entertaining in a weird sort of way.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Im just an imbecile by looks of itLooks like I am an imbecile then! I will let you off as your post was only 1 minute after mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why do you think they haven't posted the video of the incident with Carl Wilkinson. Is there coverage of that incident? Id love to see the race again... I, like the majority of the crowd was convinced that Nielsen caused wilko to fall, looked pretty clear cut.. Any coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I agree with others that it sets a dangerous precedent as surely only away teams will suffer from video evidence. On a separate point is there any come back on a referee for poor decision making/loss of control of the meeting, we have had two major incidents this season and the same ref has been in charge of both. If this was football, the ref's performance would be assessed and they would be rested/demoted to a lower league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 What was the other major incident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 It was Coventry v Poole on Sky when the home team walked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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