dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Tungate rode really well there I thought. He'd be a good guestmust admit the same thought had crossed my mind.Hadnt posted it though as felt it may be misinterpreted as a wind up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpecialOne Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Bad news for Josh. So sorry for him. All the more reason for a Ban for Tungate . I hope SCB throw the book at him. This is giving speedway a bad name, it cannot be allowed for riders to dictate, plus whilst their at it make refs watch the track until 4 riders are back in pits!I haven't changed my mind after reading all these posts and watching the video. That incident was deliberate. Get well soon Josh. I feel for you! June you really are a daft old bat! Do you seriously think any judgement is based on the extent of any injury sustained? You really need to get over this small club mentality and accept that the world isn't against you. If it wasn't for the pious attitude being adopted by the likes of yourself and the particularly condescending 'All The Best Rob' you may have found more people agreeing with you or at least being more open minded about events. If Tungate doesn't receive a ban now the Scunthorpe part of this forum may well go into melt down with the first class blubbing coming from 'All The Best Rob' and cronies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 HEY GAV , you didnt answer my question about if you were at the meeting where tungater lost control half way down the back straight on the warm down lap. from the waty you were posting , you said you were in conversation with the scunny fans and the people you talked to thought it was an accident by tungater. well were you there or not. thought you would have replied by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 #BookTungate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Surely booking rohan would add a much needed few onto the gate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm sure I saw Rob G and Phil H cuddling each other and exchanging a laugh just after the handbags between Ashley Morris and Nike Lunna's mechanic. And fair play to Phil for going onto the mic at the end... it was obvious he was going to get a reception, but he did it anyway, and wished Scunny the best for the future. It was slightly surreal at times on Friday - I don't think I've ever been to a speedway meeting quite like that one. All the best Rob Personally, Rob, I thought that was a foolish and unnecessary action. I can't see what he had to gain and I can very much see how he might have incited the crowd. And strangely enough all those who are convinced of Tungates guilt are Scunthorpe supporters. Nonsense. I'd say that the only ones who are saying Tungate isn't guilty are Ipswich supporters (and even they aren't unanimous). Everyone else (who draws a conclusion) says otherwise. I was 20 yards away, had a very good view, saw the whole thing very clearly, am not a Scunny supporter and am certain it was deliberate. You asked the question did tungate knock off auty deliberately. And the answer is no didn't. He knocked him off by accident. I am sure he didn't intend to injure Auty. I am equally sure he intended to run into him. The thing is if you run into another rider you know that he can fall and he can get injured. Tungate rode really well there I thought. He'd be a good guest I was thinking earlier in the meeting that Tungate would be a good signing for Scunthorpe Somehow I can't see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Has Tungate got the bottle to offer his services as a guest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Has Tungate got the bottle to offer his services as a guest? Maybe as a good will gesture you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 And then donate some of his earnings to Auty's collection!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 As I asked yesterday, was video part of an authorised filming (ie, licensed by Go-Speed) or just a guy in the crowd with a camcorder? If the latter, it will be ignored by any future enquiry. Give over in the absence of an official film; the SCB will discount any other footage that exists of one of the most controversial incidents this year?. Why would they ignore it did we make it up or something or did we film what actually happened.As it seems to be the only record of events I contend its admissible m'lord justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 And then donate some of his earnings to Auty's collection!! Perhaps Josh should take him to court and claim loss of earnings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) I am sorry to hear about Josh, that is bad news for Scunthorpe, but, after reading all these comments, I don't believe Tungate should get a ban, as I fully believe now that he did not intend to knock him off but did try to "spray" him which went wrong, and yes that doesn't match up with his statement therefore a fine should be the end of it. When driving your car the punishment for death by dangerous driving is likely to be far greater than dangerous driving. The point being, the consequences of a dangerous move has a bearing on the punishment. If Tungate managed to spray him with shale he gets off with no punishment, however his dangerous move went wrong and the punishment should be more severe than £200. Edited July 23, 2015 by eric i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Personally, Rob, I thought that was a foolish and unnecessary action. I can't see what he had to gain and I can very much see how he might have incited the crowd. Nonsense. I'd say that the only ones who are saying Tungate isn't guilty are Ipswich supporters (and even they aren't unanimous). Everyone else (who draws a conclusion) says otherwise. Sorry HT, as a Redcar supporter and I've watched the footage several times, I'm still not 100% sure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu219 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 No one can be sure by watching the video so time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Perhaps Josh should take him to court and claim loss of earnings... How many riders have been hurt when auty has caused crashes maybe they could claim loses too. The video gives no strong evidence he did it on purpose so no case to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 How many riders have been hurt when auty has caused crashes maybe they could claim loses too. The video gives no strong evidence he did it on purpose so no case to answer. So thats ok then? because of Auty having a reputation Tungate ( who i like) should get away with it.For me he is guilty i don't think he meant it but at the end of the the day he has cost Auty a few quid in earning's and a early close to his season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sorry HT, as a Redcar supporter and I've watched the footage several times, I'm still not 100% sure.. Fair point. What I would say is the view I had is way, way, better than you get on that youtube clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 i dont think the main moan is getting him banned, we all wanted him withdrawn from the meeting,hence the protest, the ref said he couldnt, scunny showed him in the rule book he could, all this talk about getting him banned is blown out of proportion, but if the scb decided it was dangerous to warrant a ban then so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I cant believe people are trying to argue theres no proof, and it's not obvious. Pause the video at 1.47 and see where Tungate is pointing. He only had one intention with his back wheel being where it is, to wipe out Auty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Give over in the absence of an official film; the SCB will discount any other footage that exists of one of the most controversial incidents this year?. Why would they ignore it did we make it up or something or did we film what actually happened.As it seems to be the only record of events I contend its admissible m'lord justice. I think that, as only those with prior accreditation may engage in any photography at a licensed speedway, your illegal actions might get you an official warning if you try to 'present' it as evidence. The rule-book already says (14.9.2) the only acceptable video evidence is that of a recognised company, specifying that in the absence of such evidence decisions have to be made without referral to any (unrecognised) video or replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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