Robinh88 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Been a big follower of Grigory Laguta since his 10-11 switch to Wlokinarz Czestochowa from Lokomotiv Daugavpils... Always been impressed by his tenacity and style on the bike.... Thought he was at his best in the SEC Round 4 unreal last year This season bar the challenge match at Krosno and Wroclaw (A) bikes have been slow maybe the pressure of racing for Torun? Had a a good few tape exclusions which I find infuriating. Maybe he was racing at his maximum 2 years previous had a few smashes since. Maybe a move back to Daugavpils would help? Anyone know what is going on with him - injuries, bikes? Come back Griscza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 from what the commentator said at the Euro Championship last week, he is riding a Jawa engined machine and its not giving the characteristics Gregori is looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 from what the commentator said at the Euro Championship last week, he is riding a Jawa engined machine and its not giving the characteristics Gregori is looking for.You are mixing him up with Martin Smolinski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 You are mixing him up with Martin Smolinski. Whose form took a notable downturn once he couldn't use his switch anymore! With regards to Greg Laguta, I've read nothing but constant hype about him and his brother, yet I've never seen anything from either of them to warrant it. I'm not denying they've had great meetings, just that in the 20 or so times I've seen them ride they've been average..i think perhaps I'm expecting too much from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Whose form took a notable downturn once he couldn't use his switch anymore! With regards to Greg Laguta, I've read nothing but constant hype about him and his brother, yet I've never seen anything from either of them to warrant it. I'm not denying they've had great meetings, just that in the 20 or so times I've seen them ride they've been average..i think perhaps I'm expecting too much from them. It depends what is average for you. Probably wouldnt be a contender in the SGP straight away but he would be in the top 8 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Hes an odd one Greg Laguta - a few times I've watched him and he's be great, a tenacious battler who fights his way from the back in great style. Other times I see him and he always seems content to sit in 3rd and do very little. How can a rider go from wild boy to gating tart?! Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) How can a rider go from wild boy to gating tart?! Odd. It's usually after they've found out that falling off a bike hurts, or they find a good woman ;-). Has he had any significant injuries of late? I won't ask about his love life. Edited July 15, 2015 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It depends what is average for you. Probably wouldnt be a contender in the SGP straight away but he would be in the top 8 for sure. You see, this is my point. This kind of hype! He's below Lindback, Vaculik, Protasiewicz and Kolodziej in the European Championships... none of whom you would say would be 'top 8' GP riders for sure. Granted, its only 2 meetings and he may turn that around somewhat in the final 2 rounds, its just that given all the hype I've heard about him, he's been disappointing.. (as he has in the league matches I've seen from Sweden). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's usually after they've found out that falling off a bike hurts, or they find a good woman ;-). Has he had any significant injuries of late? I won't ask about his love life. He did have a long time out due to injury last season which possibly has some effect but I have seen have wild boy meetings since. But certainly that injury may have had some effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's usually after they've found out that falling off a bike hurts, or they find a good woman ;-). Has he had any significant injuries of late? I won't ask about his love life. That's a very good point regarding injuries. Some riders can bounce back from injuries, for others it can have a big effect on their careers. Two examples of the top of my head, Sam Ermolenko, came back from major, major leg injuries to be a better rider that he was before... whereas Joe Screen after he broke his leg was never quite the same rider again. Please don't take that as a knock on Joe Screen, or any rider that wasn't so good after an injury! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Grigorij was injured twice last season. He sustained a foot injury prior to the season and then about halfway through the season he broke the same foot again. It wasn't a crash though but rather he got his foot somehow stuck between the ground and the footrest. As far as his love life is going, he is married and have two kids. Also I disagree about him being a gating tart, he is usually a very poor gater but is very good at finding lines to pass other riders however that requires a track with more then one line which is why his results is usually very poor at tracks where gating is everything. Edited July 15, 2015 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 he came back from injuries well last season.. won the sec round and top scored for the rest of the world and won an individual at ostrow His race with Woffinden showed that Laguta still has it in the locker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 You see, this is my point. This kind of hype! He's below Lindback, Vaculik, Protasiewicz and Kolodziej in the European Championships... none of whom you would say would be 'top 8' GP riders for sure. Granted, its only 2 meetings and he may turn that around somewhat in the final 2 rounds, its just that given all the hype I've heard about him, he's been disappointing.. (as he has in the league matches I've seen from Sweden). This season he is top scorer in Torun. He has the 8th best average in ekstraliga, gp riders ahead of him: Woffy, Hampel, NP and Hancock. I guess you can say he is struggling in Sweden this season he only has the average of 1,857 points/heat. Last year he had 2 injures and only rode 5 matches in the ekstraliga average: 2,5 points/heat and only started the last race of the euros which he won with 17 points. He won bronze medal in 2013 at the European Championships. I dont follow his results in the russian league but i can imagine that not many riders can beat him there. Apart from the 2 European Championships round this year and some nights in the elitserien he is done really well in the last couple of years. And his tough riding style adds to his hype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWy1Po3faEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20EbDsE8NuA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Dawkins20, Laguta's Swedish average is 1.643 at the moment, it was 1.870 at the start of this season. That makes him 21st in Sweden at the moment. http://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/TeamSections.aspx?TeamId=38 http://www.svemo.se/sv/Grenar/Speedway/Elitserien2015/Rankinglista/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 This season he is top scorer in Torun. He has the 8th best average in ekstraliga, gp riders ahead of him: Woffy, Hampel, NP and Hancock. I guess you can say he is struggling in Sweden this season he only has the average of 1,857 points/heat. Last year he had 2 injures and only rode 5 matches in the ekstraliga average: 2,5 points/heat and only started the last race of the euros which he won with 17 points. He won bronze medal in 2013 at the European Championships. I dont follow his results in the russian league but i can imagine that not many riders can beat him there. Apart from the 2 European Championships round this year and some nights in the elitserien he is done really well in the last couple of years. And his tough riding style adds to his hype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWy1Po3faEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20EbDsE8NuA I've no doubts in Poland and of course Russia he is a very good rider... but there have been many riders over the years who have been brilliant in Poland but not been able to replicate it at the next level. I also don't doubt he is a good rider, he clearly has to be to have achieved what he has done and for people to think so highly of him. I simply commented, for some reason every time I watch him, he's not that good. I must be a curse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Dolgin's rankings, which take into account all meetings over the last two years and are arguably the most comprehensive ranking system around, still have him rated third in the world. My own system had him towards the lower end if top 20 at the end of last season. In reality I would say he is somewhere between those two points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 At his best i think he is certainly a top eight rider in the World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bream Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrINAFNsBo IMME heat 22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAWSTWjAJrU ..and the Final. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 11+1 from 4 heat tonight by Laguta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Two great races there Bream. Thanks for that. Whilst Emil is always "there", I just wish Greg Laguta was more consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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