customhouseregular Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Hmmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I dread to think what would have been said if it was them at home to Poole a little while ago instead of Coventry. Lakeside having their belly tickled again. Edited July 13, 2015 by liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I am neutral as far as Lakeside are concerned. I am not a supporter; nor am I a "hater". When I go, it is to watch speedway racing and I would take no pleasure in Lakeside, or any club, folding. Lakeside should have done more in the past when they had the opportunities. And what do you think would have come of it if they had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Even as a Rye Fan and a long time hater of Arena/Lakeside, I struggle to understand the negativity towards the club here. The club post Ronnie Russell has been very well run. Why are people here so harsh on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The Elite League has for some years been crying out for leadership. When Douglas and Cook joined forces they had a great combination: the successful businessman and the speedway guru. It all has rather dribbled away in recent times. Well that post hardly squares up with your original post that said Lakeside are a major part of the problem.. I agree that for years the EL has been crying out for leadership but by definition leadership can only come from the governing body. As long as the tail continues to wag the dog various shenanigans will always be going on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Was Jon Cook not part of the inner circle for a number of years? Yes up Matt fords arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes up Matt fords arse. What a crass comment. JC was Vice Chair for a while but, as others have pointed out, real leadership has been lacking and the tail continues to wag the dog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes up Matt fords arse. Totally unnecessary comment.................and goes to show the mentality of a so called fan................ I hope that Lakeside are able to get something sorted out...........it would be a shame to lose them As for the anti Poole comments from the usual suspects..............unless you were a party to the conversation surrounding the various events you know nothing so have no right to criticise...............no team is perfect..............no rider is perfect but some of you seem to put Poole and their promotion and their riders down with sometimes some very borderline slanderous remarks without knowing the full facts..............and yes it does p*ss off the true Poole fans like myself.................. RP RP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 As for the anti Poole comments from the usual suspects..............unless you were a party to the conversation surrounding the various events you know nothing so have no right to criticise...............no team is perfect..............no rider is perfect but some of you seem to put Poole and their promotion and their riders down with sometimes some very borderline slanderous remarks without knowing the full facts..............and yes it does p*ss off the true Poole fans like myself.................. The comments are not anti-Poole. They anti-those who let Poole get away with stuff. Also, which comments are slanderous? I've had a look and at best you've got silly/stupid comments but nothing slanderous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Ahem, pedantic hat on. Both slander and libel are defamatory comments. However slander is the spoken or oral version, whereas libel is the written version. End of lesson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Was Jon Cook not part of the inner circle for a number of years? My goodness you really are struggling to dig your way out of that hole. Having been totally unable to explain why Lakeside, the club have been any mor e responsible than anyone else for falling attendances you now move the goalposts to focus on an individual who is not the club, merely one member o f the promotional team. Just as Swindon fans have had to explain to the intellectually challenged at Rosco the Swindon manager is not the same as Rosco the Team GB manager, Cooks role on the MC is not the same as his position as on the Lakeside promotional team. The principle of collective responsibily on the MC or any other committee means all committee members bear equal resposibility for the committees decisions. Notwithstanding that point the MC of the BSPA are not the body with overall responsibility for the sport , that is the Speedwáy Contriol Bureau ( the clue is in the i ) and the buck ultimately stops with them. They, above all else must carry can for weak leadership. So once again despite your persistent trolling of Lakeside threads you have once again failed to back up your original claim that Lakeside bear major responsibility for the state the sport is in .. You might as well either quit while you are behind or go off and start a Jon Cook thread because your spurious claims are misplaced on an Arena Essex thread, which started off as a perfectly reasonable enquiry about the clubs future before you jumped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I sincerely hope that Jon Cook - after his year away from the MC - puts himself forward for the Chair position when Alex Harkess steps down in October. Maybe Matt Ford would agree to serve as his deputy and get rid of some of the old boys!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I sincerely hope that Jon Cook - after his year away from the MC - puts himself forward for the Chair position when Alex Harkess steps down in October. Maybe Matt Ford would agree to serve as his deputy and get rid of some of the old boys!! I think you might find Jon Cook is out of the frame for a while. The reason he gave for resigning was that he needs more time to devote to his own club which primarily includes trying to get a new home up and running. He also needs to spend some time getting the team back to winning ways. Personally I have felt for a long time the MC duties have been too much of a distraction from running Lakeside. He is now in the programme as joint team manager which I think is one thing he does do well. I think also the sooner Harkess steps down the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I asked a simple question and cannot fathom some of the vitriolic responses. I do not support Lakeside but went to Arena when speedway originally started at this track and it was more out of concern for losing another track/team that I posed the question. In part it was answered in that they will run in 2016 but if land could be found elsewhere given the pressure for house building in the current vicinity of the track would a move further afield be considered or feasible. For example the Clacton/Tendring area of Essex has various spots where it might be an option given the limited season that Elite tracks operate. Would the temp planning permissions now work given they have so few home meetings? All of this is from someone who is concerned about the sport in general and I do not want to sit back and watch the decilne to amost extinction of a motor sport that was once one of the best to watch and support 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 As a Speedway supporter I also don't want to see any more tracks/teams lost, I personally think Tendering is a bit out of the way to retain the support of current Lakeside supporters. What is needed is somewhere more accessible by public transport, we could do with some Speedway returning to the east London area if it is possible, surely there must be some disused brownfield sites somewhere along the A13 where it might be feasible. I personally would like to see a track somewhere in the Olympic Park as it seems to cover most other sports, it has good transport links and plenty of neighbourhoods nearby to attract new supporters but I don't suppose that will ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I do not believe the club are considering moving 'elsewhere' in Essex. Getting a council 'on board' is a key requirement in establishing a new build and Thurrock Council are sending out positive vibes i.e. they are keen to keep speedway in their area. Lakeside Hammers may have to become Thurrock Hammers in due course but that is a small price to pay for the continuation of speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I see Lakeside are doing fiver admission for the Coventry match. Jon Cook says it is pretty good value - excellent value in truth. Happy to give plenty of praise to Lakeside for this. The key is being able to turn a healthy proportion of the new or occasional visitors into (fairly) regulars. That is far easier said than done but the first job is to get people through the door, which this should do. Coventry should put on a good show so fingers crossed. Go to the club's official website at http://www.lakesidehammers.com/ for details e.g. For the £5 admission tickets to apply, they should be purchase in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I asked a simple question and cannot fathom some of the vitriolic responses. I do not support Lakeside but went to Arena when speedway originally started at this track and it was more out of concern for losing another track/team that I posed the question. In part it was answered in that they will run in 2016 but if land could be found elsewhere given the pressure for house building in the current vicinity of the track would a move further afield be considered or feasible. For example the Clacton/Tendring area of Essex has various spots where it might be an option given the limited season that Elite tracks operate. Would the temp planning permissions now work given they have so few home meetings? All of this is from someone who is concerned about the sport in general and I do not want to sit back and watch the decilne to amost extinction of a motor sport that was once one of the best to watch and support The track itself will take a relatively small amount of land. I think the bigger problem is noise near residential areas, whoever you put it. If I have correctly understood what has been said it should not be too difficult to keep noise down by building it with banking all round, much the same as the present track. I don't understand the technicalities of it though. As has been said the local council have been making all the right noises and Jon Cooks programme notes on the subject have been cautiously optimistic but it's early days yet and there are obvious hurdles to be overcome. The more immediate problem, according to JC's latest programme notes is maintaining crowd levels at an acceptable standard during a season where things have been going wrong, resulting in falling attendances, jnot least the unfortinate injury to AJ at a critical time, resulting in four consecutive home losses. The crowd at the last meeting looked a bit better so hopefully the trend can be reversed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I tell you what would be really good is if another part of the stadium could be used and a slightly more rounded track installed with a smaller track inside which could be used for the Hagon Shocks academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) The latest Lakeside Hammers PR emphasises the club's wish to remain in Essex: Friday 17th July 2015 THE HAMMERS PREPARE FOR TV SHOWTIME The Vortex Hammers are without a meeting this evening, Friday 17th July, but preparations are well in hand for the next Elite League Speedway action at the Arena Essex Raceway when the Coventry Buildbase Bees visit live on Sky Sports on Monday 27th July. The Vortex Hammers boss Jon Cook explained: "With our long term future uncertain at the Arena Essex Raceway we're taking the opportunity to show the good people of Essex and beyond just what a great night out Speedway is and in doing so also strengthen our hand for the Sport to remain in the Borough of Thurrock and the County of Essex. To this end all pre-booked tickets are offered at just £5 for adults and concessions via either our website or Sky Tickets. We're hoping for a bumper crowd and a great atmosphere at the Raceway as we take on this year’s runaway Elite League leaders, Coventry". The £5 tickets can only be purchased via the Club’s website at www.lakesidehammers.co and accessing the online ticket page from the home page or via the Sky Tickets website. Edited July 17, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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