SCB Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) What the hell has happened to Lindgren?! Bees score 60 but looking at a few riders scores, there's a few who can still do more -that's the great thing about this team, top of the league, having a laugh and still more to come from a couple of them. Hopefully Hans is heading back to his best now. Edited July 11, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Regarding the updates as an 11 year veteran of doing Updates the way I see it is. The texter doesn't have to do it they do it of their own free will they don't get paid for doing it. They do it voluntarily they pay their money to get in. They can say what they want on updates. If the riders haven't the back bone to take criticism on the chin then they have chosen the wrong career If the viewer doesn't like it go find updates elsewhere it's no skin off our noses. For what it's world Silverbee is one of the best at what he does and long may his and the other testers hard work continue Edited July 11, 2015 by Superstar1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 So flattered to see youve taken me off your block list 😂😂 Everyone is off, I did say the start of the year. Everyone deserves a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I cant see them doing any better when then travel to Lynn next week. Must be challenging Lakeside now, for the mantel of ' Worse Travellers' Sure is a bad sign for Speedway when a Wolves team perform so inadequately. Teams are suppose to be relatively equal with competition in every race. Winning 60-30is doesn't do anyone any favours. At this rate, I can see more teams following the direction of the Panthers into the Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Good win for the Bees but Wolves were so poor. Hans looked back on the pace and JK was faultless Robbo got stuck in and put in a better performance Will the management make changes.....I think they will stick with the current team hoping we get first pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I cant see them doing any better when then travel to Lynn next week. Must be challenging Lakeside now, for the mantel of ' Worse Travellers' Sure is a bad sign for Speedway when a Wolves team perform so inadequately. Teams are suppose to be relatively equal with competition in every race. Winning 60-30is doesn't do anyone any favours. At this rate, I can see more teams following the direction of the Panthers into the Premier League. I think Wolves biggest problem is each year they stick with the same riders even though they never get near place offs. The year Coventry finished bottom, Horton replaced the whole team the next year and we made the final last year & on our way to the play offs again this year. With Wolves every year you can tell the team will be made up of the same riders before it's even announced. Yes they added Musielak but that hasn't worked. Wolves looked better at the start of the season as PK was scoring well but that was as a 2nd string. I think changes need to be made ASAP, yes the play offs may be out of sight but the Wolves fans still deserve better than this. They could use it as a opportunity to try riders that they may then consider again next year. The problem is who wants to come to the UK & also to a team near the bottom of the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Please could you give me tomorrows lotto numbers Mate !!! Blimey,you hardly need to be Einstein to get that right. In fact it would probably be easier to say,can Wolves avoid a 60 point mauling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Podcasts from Lindgren & Adams. http://www.wolverhamptonwolves.co/news.php?extend.2321 It's concerning that Adams thinks the answer to the problem may be switching the positions of the top 3 against King's Lynn to help Lindgren. Does he honestly think PK or Wells will do a lot better at no 1? Changes are the only answer as at the moment sadly Wolves have no heat leaders. Edited July 11, 2015 by mdmc82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wolfhound Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I see that Wolves are taking on the Exeter Falcons on August 28 in a 'Development' match. Will CVS/PA track the Elite League 1-7? Perhaps they can scrape a win against Exeter... or maybe not considering their current form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I cant see them doing any better when then travel to Lynn next week. Must be challenging Lakeside now, for the mantel of ' Worse Travellers' Sure is a bad sign for Speedway when a Wolves team perform so inadequately. Teams are suppose to be relatively equal with competition in every race. Winning 60-30is doesn't do anyone any favours. At this rate, I can see more teams following the direction of the Panthers into the Premier League. If a 60-30 away loss signals a drop in league then Sheffield need to go NL after their loss at Edinburgh last night IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 BEN FUND COLLECTION TOTAL Saturday July 11, 2015 MANY thanks to everyone who contributed to our annual Elite League collection for the Speedway Riders' Benevolent Fund on Friday. The collection raised a magnificent total of £1161.69. We would to thank everyone for their generosity and the co-operation of riders from both teams in taking part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Podcasts from Lindgren & Adams. http://www.wolverhamptonwolves.co/news.php?extend.2321 It's concerning that Adams thinks the answer to the problem may be switching the positions of the top 3 against King's Lynn to help Lindgren. Does he honestly think PK or Wells will do a lot better at no 1? Changes are the only answer as at the moment sadly Wolves have no heat leaders. Adams you numpty, "You can fool all the people some of the time,and some of the people all of the time,but you cannot fool all the people all of the time" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Adams you numpty, "You can fool all the people some of the time,and some of the people all of the time,but you cannot fool all the people all of the time" CVS & Adams have never got to grips, and are showing no intent/wish to do so, of realising the things that worked for them in the past don't cut it anymore. They're stuck in a time warp. The spin and waffle is easily seen through. For example the 'bumper crowd' thing that they insist on using, which in the 60s might have had folks saying 'I'm off to the Green early this week love, looks like a big crowd' and setting off 15 minutes early just gives folks the opportunity to extract the urine. As for calling Adams a numpty, I think you're being quite kind to the useless old plank. Edited July 11, 2015 by Wolfsbane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 If a 60-30 away loss signals a drop in league then Sheffield need to go NL after their loss at Edinburgh last night IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. My comment wasn't base on one result only, it was from a culmination of all their results for the past few weeks. and also in didn't relate as such, Just because you lost by 30 you would automatically drop a division. The comment was based on the thought that other clubs, who had struggled in the BEL with team strength, results, support and finance and seen it better to drop a division to survive. I wasn't being detrimental or facetious in any way , more about being realistic... I honestly believe the amalgamation of the Elite and Premier league is emanate and hopefully will signal the start of the revival of the sport in this country..... The difference between the leagues has diminished, and now it solely relates to about dozen world class riders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately at Wolves their is no money at the club any more,crowds are down year on year and even the team sponsorship is structured around results .Although Wolves are historically loyal to riders,there simply now is not the funds to sack riders and bring in what would be expensive replacements.Unfortunately if the starting 1-7 doesn't work the club are now resigned to having tot stick with it.The weekly sound bites in the press of 'sticking together' 'low on confidence' and 'looking forward' are just a smokescreen for we can't afford to make to make changes.Unfortunately the team every year becomes a re jigging of the club asset base which is fine as long as you supplement it with some young riders with emerging talent who have experience of riding in Britain,the days of Wolves signing a Brady Kurtz of a Max Fricke seem to have gone.Unfortunately this years team was built with a top number 1 and a top number 7,neither has worked and it has exposed Wolves 4 second strings and a weak 2nd reserve.Unfortunately this season is over and it will be interesting to see what effect it will have on attendances at the Green.What also hasn't helped is that the quality of speedway at Monmore is nowhere near what it was pre 2011,something CVS and Pete Adams can't be blamed for. Edited July 12, 2015 by New Science 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I honestly believe the amalgamation of the Elite and Premier league is emanate and hopefully will signal the start of the revival of the sport in this country..... The difference between the leagues has diminished, and now it solely relates to about dozen world class riders... I really hope not. Downgrading the product even further, weakening it even more and becomes a league with no credibility whatsoever. As proved in 96, it's destined for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I really hope not. Downgrading the product even further, weakening it even more and becomes a league with no credibility whatsoever. As proved in 96, it's destined for failure. I agree. I would much rather watch EL than PL. granted it's not always great but better than the Berwick V Peterborough meeting last week. There are also still a lot of the same problems in the PL such as riders missing through injury or clashes, track problems and also problems with the rules (Redcar/Somerset) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 At least one league would solve the issue with riders being missing on PL duty and who's got preference over who for their services. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I agree. I would much rather watch EL than PL. granted it's not always great but better than the Berwick V Peterborough meeting last week. There are also still a lot of the same problems in the PL such as riders missing through injury or clashes, track problems and also problems with the rules (Redcar/Somerset) Plus there are way more one sided meetings in the PL. Those who brag PL Is better are sadly blinkered. Season after season there are clubs struggling to make ends meet. Workington, Glasgow and Edinburgh in recent seasons and now Scunthorpe are close to closing. The hand picked SKY matches generally offer good racing however that is not the general standard, which is no different to the EL. We already have the weakest and most watered down EL/top flight probably in history and it needs no further dumbing down. Amalgamation has already been tried and failed. There is no difference for next season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) The only way merging the EL and PL would ever work is if it was done on the Premier League's terms, which would be a further weakening of the product. Plus there are way more one sided meetings in the PL. Those who brag PL Is better are sadly blinkered. Season after season there are clubs struggling to make ends meet. Workington, Glasgow and Edinburgh in recent seasons and now Scunthorpe are close to closing.The hand picked SKY matches generally offer good racing however that is not the general standard, which is no different to the EL.We already have the weakest and most watered down EL/top flight probably in history and it needs no further dumbing down. Amalgamation has already been tried and failed. There is no difference for next season either. Far too many like to peddle the myth that the Premier League is a well oiled machine and that all of speedway's problems are in the Elite League. Reality is that all three leagues have fundamental flaws which need to be sorted. Edited July 12, 2015 by mb1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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