Filth Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Is there anyone here with some decent knowledge of the rules who can explain why BWD was not allowed to guest for Rye House tonight? Seeing a lot of things on Facebook and other forums about this but no one has been able to offer any kind of explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 is it some thing to do with being a kiwi and coming in on an assessed average? (5.00 for nl/pl )? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 He posted on FB that it was something to do with his average being too high????????? It was average related anyway.............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 He posted on FB that it was something to do with his average being too high????????? It was average related anyway.............. RP Thats what the sports all about these days.Never mind the entertainment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 If he's eligible for the NL, then he should be a 3 point PL rider. Yet some how the BSPA/SCB are making things up and apparently giving him an assessed 5 point PL average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Everyone's getting extremely overexcited about him, he's clearing up a bit in the NL but is untried at any other level. He'll be lauded as the next big thing and tons of pressure will be put on him . Why not just let the lad enjoy his racing and see how it goes eh ? we've all been here before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Truth be known I think Eastbpurne pulled a fast one but good luck to them and he's been a breath of fresh air by the sounds of it. I spoke to Jake Anderson a few years back and he said even though he has patriality because he rode in an Aussie title he wasn't allowed back in the NL and I know Rob Branford keeps getting told if he does an Aust title he can't do NL or be a fast track rider. So unless BWD has a british passport he shouldn't be doing NL and should come into the PL on a 7. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filth Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Could that be why BWD didn't ride in the NZ nationals at the start of this year? I think a lot of the excitement around him is coming from the fact that New Zealand have not had a world class rider in many years and that he could be the next big thing for NZ. I was hugely disappointed to see he wasn't going to be racing tonight at Ipswich but think the big step from NL to a PL heat leader on a track he's never seen could have been a bit much and may have knocked his confidence a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Could that be why BWD didn't ride in the NZ nationals at the start of this year? I think a lot of the excitement around him is coming from the fact that New Zealand have not had a world class rider in many years and that he could be the next big thing for NZ. I was hugely disappointed to see he wasn't going to be racing tonight at Ipswich but think the big step from NL to a PL heat leader on a track he's never seen could have been a bit much and may have knocked his confidence a bit. Isn't he NZ under 21 champ any senior titles count . Good luck to the lad I wish we could get a few good young Aussies in. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 TBF, the Australian Champion for the last 10-15 years has been mainly British riders (Bunyan, Sarjeant and I think Appleton and Morris have won it too) so it's not just for the people of New Zealand. Hasn't Ryan Terry Daley rode in it too? That said, I do like the fact they're trying to force riders to be British and not something else if they're going to make the most of our youth set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filth Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I think you mean New Zealand not Australian SCB, Ryan Terry Daley is basically a kiwi anyway as he moved there at a young age and learnt his trade I New Zealand. But yes you're right the last 10 of 12 winners have been British. Sad that NZ is happy to let British riders race in their country and national championships yet when a young kiwi is trying to make it in the sport they do everything to hinder his progress. Josh bates can do 3 leagues yet BWD can only do 1, that just seems crazy to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Didn't they stop riders riding in three leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filth Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Didn't they stop riders riding in three leagues? I thought the same. I see in this weeks speedway star Bradley has said that the bspa have told him next season he will have to come in to the PL on an assessed 7.00 average?! He's said that if that is the case then he will finish up with speedway as realistically no one would take him on a 7.00 average as even he knows he's only worth taking on a 3.00 or a 5.00 at a push. Would be a shame to lose him from British speedway as I really can see a young Ronnie Moore in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Try and remember, Austrailia & New Zealand are foreign countries and riders should be treated the same way as any other foreign rider without the European Community. If a rider has dual nationality, not neutrality, then they will be treated as a UK passport holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 If he's eligible for the NL, then he should be a 3 point PL rider. Yet some how the BSPA/SCB are making things up and apparently giving him an assessed 5 point PL average. That's how I understand it. I know of two PL clubs who asked after him and were told he comes in on a 5.00. If he is eligible to ride in the NL, his PL average is a 3.00. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 I thought the same. I see in this weeks speedway star Bradley has said that the bspa have told him next season he will have to come in to the PL on an assessed 7.00 average?! He's said that if that is the case then he will finish up with speedway as realistically no one would take him on a 7.00 average as even he knows he's only worth taking on a 3.00 or a 5.00 at a push. Would be a shame to lose him from British speedway as I really can see a young Ronnie Moore in him.surely if he has to come in on a 7 to pl next year, then he canot be eligible for nl this year, and points could/should be deducted. im not saying i agree with this but something is not right about the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) 18.6.1 Riders new to Premier League racing are categorised as follows:Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the PolishEkstraliga or the Swedish Elitserien of above 6.00 points and a Rider subject to aCertificate of SponsorshipCat 2: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the PolishEkstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other Riders ridingcurrently in any Professional Speedway League,Cat 3a: Riders not riding in a Professional Speedway LeagueCat 3b: Commonwealth or USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to BritishSpeedwayCat 4: Riders who have ridden in the National Development League as an Amateur18.6.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the PL racing is:Cat 1 8.00Cat 2 7.00Cat 3a 5.00Cat 3b 7.00Cat 4 3.00 That makes him a 3.00. Edited July 25, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) What makes him 'able' to ride in the NL? I thought as a NZ he wasn't able to. Edited July 25, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 What makes him 'able' to ride in the NL? I thought as a NZ he wasn't able to. Patriality, that's why he started in the NL on a 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Patriality, that's why he started in the NL on a 5. Fair enough - I seem to remember Brady Kurtz being blocked from riding in the NL before, and then we all know about the fiasco that followed with his PL average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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