Grachan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Not as much as Swindon had at the 1st meeting. We lost 3 riders that night & finished up with only 6 riders in this meeting. Hardly average manipulation as Darcy's average over 2 meetings is 9.45. Try posting sensibly, Poole made the gate in heat 15 & it makes no sense to take risks when the meeting is already won. 12 from 6 at Leicester 11 from 5 at Swindon 23/11 x 4 = 8.36 To be honest, if riders are prepared to do it, I'd get them to drop their averages every time once a match was won if I was a manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 12 from 6 at Leicester 11 from 5 at Swindon 23/11 x 4 = 8.36 To be honest, if riders are prepared to do it, I'd get them to drop their averages every time once a match was won if I was a manager. Agree 100% with your comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) You said the Abbey is a gaters paradise so how can you make such a comments without being a regular? Another silly comment, no wonder you are not respected on this forum. I think if you look back through the pages it wasn't my quote, try post 383 Edited July 15, 2015 by Game On Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 12 from 6 at Leicester 11 from 5 at Swindon 23/11 x 4 = 8.36 To be honest, if riders are prepared to do it, I'd get them to drop their averages every time once a match was won if I was a manager. Apologies Grachan, forgot to deduct the 3 points from the TR. Forget average manipulation though, what point is there of taking risks in heat 15 when the match is won & the other team has gated & are away. Settle for what you've got, take no risks & save yourself for the next meeting. That is why Tai has won the World Championship & Darcy hasn't. Tai takes the points he needs & takes no risks as in Cardiff this year in the final. Darcy has taken risks in the past, crashed, got injured & then lost meetings & the World Championship as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Not as much as Swindon had at the 1st meeting. We lost 3 riders that night & finished up with only 6 riders in this meeting. Hardly average manipulation as Darcy's average over 2 meetings is 9.45. Try posting sensibly, Poole made the gate in heat 15 & it makes no sense to take risks when the meeting is already won. waiting for your apology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Think my concern for Swindon is the track has not even started to be built! They need to crack on with it, if not i can see the Robins missing 2016 which is the last thing the EL needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Think my concern for Swindon is the track has not even started to be built! They need to crack on with it, if not i can see the Robins missing 2016 which is the last thing the EL needs. worrying times indeed. It was supposed to start 4/5 weeks ago I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Think my concern for Swindon is the track has not even started to be built! They need to crack on with it, if not i can see the Robins missing 2016 which is the last thing the EL needs. I didn't think the Abbey could be demolished until a replacement was built. So at worst they'll be switching stadium mid-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I would be worried about Stadia UK it worries me at Poole after what happened with them at Reading. Although speedway in the town has massive clout with the council and stadia uk have to go with it. Not sure how much support the council are giving the Robins? Edited July 15, 2015 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I would be worried about Stadia UK it worries me at Poole after what happened with them at Reading. Although speedway in the town has massive clout with the council and stadia uk have to go with it. Not sure how much support the council are giving the Robins? I would be worried about Stadia UK it worries me at Poole after what happened with them at Reading. Although speedway in the town has massive clout with the council and stadia uk have to go with it. Not sure how much support the council are giving the Robins? This is one thing we have in our favour. The council have said that the current stadim cannot be demolished until the new one is built. Without that being put in place, Swindon would probably have closed down in 2007, never to be seen again. Like Poole, Speedway has quite a high profile locally, which is a good thing in situations like this. But it's still all a bit 'fingers crossed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Yeah fingers crossed! need to start seeing the track being built and fast, funny how the houses are already going up behind the current pits! We need to keep Swindon speedway going as losing it will be a massive loss to British speedway. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Swindon did have torrential downpours over the weekend, my garden was happy with it though....and the threat was big enough on Monday to question peoples attendance. Just looking at the two tracks before the start of each match, highlighted the tremendous difference between the 2 events. And therefore would be very difficult to make comparisons between the two. ..... Brandon track was a quagmire before the start, and regardless of the cost of the tickets, the weather was such that it would not have induced anybody to venture outside, let alone to watch speedway. If it hadn't been for Sky, the Coventry match would have been called off by dinner....... The track was that bad.......... Regardless of the similar weather forecasts, the Abbey was completely different and offered dry evening and a perfect surface to race on . So trying to find some relevance of your argument is difficult.. There was so much more in Swindon's favour , Local rivalry, with neighbouring support, Return of the prodigal son, and the draw of a new signing, all these elements made Swindon match a far bigger draw. I can see the both sides of the argument about cheap tickets, but feel there is not definite right and wrong conclusion. Every club, and each match is different and should be looked independently. Its not about 'Greedy Promoters' any more, it's all about survival and what well makes a profit..... I think a lot of posters on here pluck figures out of thin air, without understanding the degrees of difficulty, putting on a meeting entails....... If it was that easy, we would have far more clubs than we do at present. There have been many that fallen by the wayside, so rather than pillar and question the ones that are left, lets get behind them instead..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I don't think its as simple as low admission price. I think it's a dual effect of low admission plus promoting that too and publicising the event. It does seem that, without these, people don't bother to go and stay at home. So it's quite surprising how this can turn things around completely and result in some of the best crowds of the season. Some people say it proves that admission should be cheaper, but just doing that along would, I reckon, not make enough impact long term t ocover lost revenue. But promoting Sky matches as one off events with low admission means people like myself who tend to pick and choose are likely to choose those matches. I see Lakeside are doing a £5 admission too. Be interesting to see how it compares to Swindon's matches and Lakeside's own "Free Admission" match a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Most of the ignorant Robins fans......I don't care I only like a few posters on here anyway....so the feeling is mutual.......the posters I like already know who they are. Phew! Glad I'm one of them Gater1 Incidentally, Steve Shovlar changed his allegiance from Swindon to Poole in the late seventies. I thought for a minute you could be Shov, but there again, not even Shov would wear purple chinos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It would make it more dangerous. Being able to turn effectively around the bend, the back wheel needs to keep skidding and the more it does the sharper the turn. Having brakes would counter this and although someone could use a rear wheel brake to give them more grip on a slick track, it would risk the bike straightening violently and endangering that riders and others. A front wheel brake would make turning more difficult as when the front wheel skids, which it would, the bike goes away from the rider and they're more likley to fall off on the low side. Down the straight then the impact of a rear wheel brake could be to make the bike gain traction and lift if applied with any force to stop colliding with a rider directly in front but is not necessary because simply closing the throttle really knocks off the speed due to them being four stroke single cylinder engines. They used to have front brakes in grasstrack where you have different types of machines but they were largely ineffective. Of course another component which can come adrfit and maybe jam a wheel or hit a rider is also not something they need. Hope this answers your query in a not too techincal a way. p.s. Zengota did well on Monday, shame for Belle Vue he was worse than poor at Lakeside the previous Friday! Thanks for that SPEEDY69, Je comprends tres bien.. Shame as I don't want to ruin the forum for others...... A bit late for that isn't it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 No worries thicko. Blah blah blah blah..... Keep em coming....Ill just send you abuse back.....Shame as I don't want to ruin the forum for others...... Er, i think your going over the top there mate, i think thicko is the last thing English Roundabout is..And id hardly call what he replied as abuse. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 No.....As I said I treat people the same way as they treat me......If a fellow member shows me respect then I will show them respect......If a fellow member sends me abuse I will send them abuse back........ DILLiGAF... Er, i think your going over the top there mate, i think thicko is the last thing English Roundabout is..And id hardly call what he replied as abuse. Spot on Starman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Reduced admission must always be a dilemma for the promoters who do it.... The simple reason is that the inevitable increase in crowd merely demonstrates to them the fact that the usual admission costs are far too high whilst at the same time also clearly demonstrates that at 'the right price' a big crowd will still attend the sport.... The dilemma therefore is how to deliver the outgoings for the sport which facilitates enough income from such admission fees every week.... Easy to say, much more difficult to do, however the massive prize on offer is clearly there if they can... Just as an aside, do any of the promoters who do this reduced admission ever take email details, mobile numbers, home addresses etc off the crowd to target them with more offers to get them to attend more often?? Edited July 15, 2015 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Well he keeps getting involved in stuff which is not his business. To be honest I think this whole situation is childish and ridiculous.....I have been arguing for days.............All because I said Gomolski is under achieving...... Mate, you can look at that 2 ways, yes Golmolski at times is hard work, and we all know that he has a problem with the small tracks, on the flip side he is still riding above his average, so you can really ask no more than that. But i really wouldn't worry. Trophies are not given out till end September.. Edited July 15, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I agree about Gomolski on the small tracks.....I don't expect Kacper to score well either around the small tracks.......Kacper is riding above his average....However his starting average was only 3.94 so Kacper was always going to up his average........If you beat the Elite Draft Riders then that's 4 points.......I am not doubting us winning the league....I just think we will need to make a change come play-off time because Coventry look a very solid 1-7 other than that we have the beating of anyone else over 2 legs. If the cause is justifiable im sure that Matt will have his top hat and wand at the ready .. Hey presto... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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