Woz01 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 1st half the the gp was average at best but the 2nd half was very good to be fair. Tai done well to extend his lead after an indifferent start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicOctopus Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Excellent meeting. Another reminder that you cannot judge a meeting a failure after the first 4 heats. The championship seems close to being decided, but there is still lots of excitement regarding the bronze and the top 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Excellent meeting. Another reminder that you cannot judge a meeting a failure after the first 4 heats. The championship seems close to being decided, but there is still lots of excitement regarding the bronze and the top 8.Title is nowhere near decided-maybe if there was 1 round to go !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Title is nowhere near decided-maybe if there was 1 round to go !!!!!! While not decided, it would take a brave man to risk his home on anyone but Woffy right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 While not decided, it would take a brave man to risk his home on anyone but Woffy right now! It would take a really stupid man to risk his home on a speedway bet However Woffy isn`t a 2/9 shot-speedway`s injuries are to common for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Aces, Tai was lucky in the semi when he was in 3rd place when Holder fell. Zagar and Janowski was well ahead and I don't think Tai would have managed to catch them. Â Janowski was well clear, Zagar wasn't though, Tai was right behind him as they entered turn 3, with Holder only a tad further away when he fell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I have really enjoyed the trip to Horsens and the weather has been great which makes a nice change based on previous trips to Denmark. Â Still a long way to go but Tai is looking good for his second win. Â As for the unusual (although not unheard of) backstraight bunching decision - I am no fan of Jim Lawrence but I somehow doubt he made the decision without considerable input and guidance from others! Â I'm no fan either and thought it a really poor decision. However having met Mr Lawrence the idea of him accepting instructions from anybody is laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 How anyone is complaining about that GP I do not know. Cracking little stadium, great racing, bit of controversy that is the entertainment I am after when i sit down to watch a GPGPs 1 and 2 this year were a complete sht show but since then I think it's been a bloody good series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm no fan either and thought it a really poor decision. However having met Mr Lawrence the idea of him accepting instructions from anybody is laughable But didn't he admit to doing just that in Warsaw when he was trying to deflect blame from himself? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Can't believe he got another gp after his contribution to the warsaw shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 As for the unusual (although not unheard of) backstraight bunching decision - I am no fan of Jim Lawrence but I somehow doubt he made the decision without considerable input and guidance from others! Absolute rubbish, and as others have said if Lawrence felt one of the riders was at fault he would have gone no matter who he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Absolute rubbish, and as others have said if Lawrence felt one of the riders was at fault he would have gone no matter who he was. And as others have said he got it totally wrong! Edited August 11, 2015 by WembleyLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 The ref got it right as no one rider was to blame. If the rule was changed to allow all 4 back should there be a crash on any lap then it would solve the problem. Â If the ref had excluded PK or NP some one would have said he got it wrong. He was in a no win position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Full meeting video ( polish) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8HT6_juQQs Edited August 12, 2015 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Once again we get the "purists"..following every minute details which interests them but sadly means ***k all to the general public. Â speedway is not chess..it is not golf..its "Entertainment"...and far far too many people lose sight of this. Â Jim Lawrence used his judgement for the betterment of the crowd, the TV and the general ambience of the sport. Â Was the meeting poorer for this decision..no....did it show a modicom of pure commonsense..yes..... Â Speedway must address the general wishes of the public who pay either at the gate or via TV. Â The rule book is rediculous, far too much sub standard garbage...get real........ the days of the fan with a bobble hat..3 programmes, stopwatches.slaving over the times of races..etc..are gone. Â The sport needs all the fans,sponsorship, media coverage, "entertainers" it can muster, or else the only 15 fans left will be those who are obsessed with pointless self gratifying trivia. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Spiegal, then Jim have done wrong. As a referee, you cannot choose when you want to follow the rules. Â A referee cannot refrain from excluding a rider who is at fault just because he/she thinks that the meeting would benefit from not excluding a certain rider. Â A referee cannot and shall not exclude a less exciting rider and refrain from excluding a more exciting rider for the same kind of incident. Â Any referee that does that should immediately hand in his or hers referee licence. Edited August 12, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 You have just totally made the point I am making..... Â sadly there are people around who would agree with you. Â again and again and again and again you are missing the point....how sad for the sport is that. Â 99% of people who watch speedway thirst for genuine entertainment not the self important few who treasure their closeted view of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) You have just totally made the point I am making..... Â sadly there are people around who would agree with you. Â again and again and again and again you are missing the point....how sad for the sport is that. Â 99% of people who watch speedway thirst for genuine entertainment not the self important few who treasure their closeted view of the sport. Even UFC has rules. Â Team building rules for domestic leagues might be rubbishe and unnecessary, but you cant keep a global sport governed without racing rules. And therefor every referee that starts to make his own rules as things happen, should be kicked out of the sport. Edited August 13, 2015 by f-s-p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The rules should be changed then, to give the ref the option to re-run a race after a crash without having to exclude one rider, if he can't decide who was to blame for the crash. 50/50 situations happen very often, and according to current rules one rider has to go, the other can re-start, which is often unfair. Â Therefore, F.I.M., please change the rules, so that a referee does not have to break the rules (which really is a no go) as Jim Larence has done by allowing all riders back for the re-run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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