Shadders Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) What does "NEG" mean next to Adam Ellis name on latest NL Green sheets? Not eligable to guest in the NL http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/nl15_issue_11.pdf Edited July 7, 2015 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Not eligable to guest in the NL http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/nl15_issue_11.pdf Its ok i found it..... Not Eligible to Guest as NL only Guest in PL as has achieved 4.00 or above in PL (S.R. 18.10 (e)) A NL Guest (any Rider eligible for a NL Team) but who has never achieved an actual PL CMA of 4.00 or above So he can't guest on thursday then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Its ok i found it..... Not Eligible to Guest as NL only Guest in PL as has achieved 4.00 or above in PL (S.R. 18.10 (e)) A NL Guest (any Rider eligible for a NL Team) but who has never achieved an actual PL CMA of 4.00 or above So he can't guest on thursday then? You sure? I read it as can't guest for NL, but can guest in PL Edited July 7, 2015 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 This team has made me think about bothering. Quite how we have allowed the best bunch of riders we have had in years disintegrate into this is beggars belief. I thought the pairs was going to be a low point but for me the only thing of real interest is how well BWD does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) This team has made me think about bothering. Quite how we have allowed the best bunch of riders we have had in years disintegrate into this is beggars belief. I thought the pairs was going to be a low point but for me the only thing of real interest is how well BWD does. That would be the only reason I'd go, but I'm not spending £60 to find out Edited July 7, 2015 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Not elligle to guest as a NL only guest - ie where there is no facility. Rye do have a full facility so actually presumably Adam is guesting using his attained PL average fro 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootieandSpeedway Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 You sure? I read it as can't guest for NL, but can guest in PL Adam Ellis has definitly guested in the NL this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 It means he can't ride as a guest in the PL where no facility is allowed s already pointed out. There's nothing in the rules that says a NL rider can guest in the PL in any other way though. I'd argue that Adam is allowed to guest in the PL as an EL guest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Not elligle to guest as a NL only guest - ie where there is no facility. Rye do have a full facility so actually presumably Adam is guesting using his attained PL average fro 2014. Full facility? How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 This rule was altered slightly this year so a Premier League guest could be used instead of a National League 3 pointer. It's already been utilised by Newcastle when they went to Sheffield and used proper guests for their 2 Swedes. Where it stays the same as last year is that if the rider isn't riding in his home country - Worky fell foul of this when Hansen was riding in Sweden and we could only use Luke Crang at Redcar. It's probably not a bad move by Rye considering who would be available, a lot of riders would be on the continent during the week. Ellis has the local knowledge and by giving Wilson-Dean his Premier debut they're putting themselves in good position to sign him next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I feel sorry for the ipswich management trying to promote this meeting. I suppose it's just about bearable if you live local, but I certainly wouldn't travel far to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 It means he can't ride as a guest in the PL where no facility is allowed s already pointed out. There's nothing in the rules that says a NL rider can guest in the PL in any other way though. I'd argue that Adam is allowed to guest in the PL as an EL guest though. There's nothing in the rules that says an NL rider can't guest in a non-"No Facility" situation. I take that to mean that they are just 'a guest' using their converted average. It's another grey are to add to the ever expanding list though... Full facility? How? The long-standing unwritten* agreement with SVEMO of a facility for Swedes riding in Swedish meetings. * "Unwritten" in that it's not included in the BSPA/SCB rule book but probably exists in the archives of both FMNs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 by giving Wilson-Dean his Premier debut they're putting themselves in good position to sign him next year I wouldnt put any money on that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/u12b4ht3f#?fcTime=1436400000 Should be a nice evening for Speedway, and a stroll in the park for the Witches... Edited July 8, 2015 by BluPanther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I wouldnt put any money on that ... He'll no doubt end up at one of the big boys who'll pay more than Rye but it won't do them any harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Be a Somerset, Glasgow or Edinburgh, more likely signed by Poole as an asset then loaned to Plymouth or Somerset though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted July 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Could be a good evening for Gino to try and get his average up a little with a big score . Looking like a very one sided contest as it stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Could be a good evening for Gino to try and get his average up a little with a big score . Looking like a very one sided contest as it stands Needs heat wins not paid ones... think he needs to ave 9 pts a meeting now too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancindickie Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Excuse my ignorance, but why is everyone saying the guests are for Mellgren & Aspegren with R/r for Lykke!!! Can we not use R/R for Mellgren? At least rye could use Jacobson for one of the rides!!!! Otherwise we're using NL riders for all the RR heats!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Because it says The Rockets have booked ex-Witch Adam Ellis and Eastbourne's Bradley Wilson-Dean as guests to cover for the two Swedes and will use R/R to cover for Kasper. On Ipswich's website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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